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Consumer groups blast Rep. Campbell’s car dealer exemption
October 22nd, 2009, 4:00 am · 64 Comments · posted by Dena Bunis, Washington Bureau Chief
Rep. John Campbell
With Rep. John Campbell’s amendment to exempt car dealers from the proposed Consumer Financial Protection Agency due to be voted on in committee this morning, consumer groups are saying the Irvine Republican has a conflict here and shouldn’t be pushing something for an industry he spent 25 years working in.
UPDATE: Campbell’s amendment was approved 47-21 by the Financial Services Committee. The committee passed the full bill out as well.
The consumer groups, which also include organizations that want election reform, say that Campbell should walk away from his amendment for two reasons. First, because six auto dealerships pay him rent and would benefit from his amendment and he would benefit. And second, that Campbell received $170,000 in campaign contributions from auto dealers since he’s run for Congress.
The groups say Campbell’s personal financial disclosure forms show he received between $600,000 and $6 million in rent last year.
“For too long political contributors have been paid back with policy factors,’’ said Bob Edgar, president of Common Cause.
Wait a minute, says Campbell.
First, he said, four of the six entities that paid him rent are no longer car dealers. They are body shops or real estate holding companies.
Second, Campbell said he hasn’t been involved in the car business for the past six years.
Third, he says he ran his amendment by the House ethics committee and was told it was not a conflict of interest for him to offer it.
Campbell said his amendment will not financially benefit car dealers. “All this is trying to do is save them from needless regulation. It’s not like it’s a tax credit, not like it’s stimulus money.’’
Campbell actually recused himself and voted present on Congress’ bailout of the auto industry. In that case, he said, money was going specifically to General Motors, a company he did business with for many years.
Campbell said by the consumer group’s reasoning, lawmakers could never debate or vote on matters that they have expertise in because they used to work in a particular field.
When it comes to campaign contributions, Campbell said, does getting money from the auto sector mean he can‘t vote for any bill advocated by them?
“This is absolutely absurd,’’ he said. Based on that logic, Campbell said, “every one of us would be exempted from voting on nearly every thing we vote on.’’
These consumers groups have a solution to political contributions: Campaign finance reform.
Said Edgar: “It’s time to end pay-to-play politics and make our elections a debate of what policies are best for all of us – not just big donors. The time has come for the Fair Elections Now Act and we urge Rep. Campbell to add his name to the bill.”
Campbell’s alleged conflict aside, the consumer groups are vehemently opposed to this amendment and want the auto dealers included in the bill.
They told Watchdog reporter Teri Sforza why they think auto dealers should be covered. Here’s an excerpt from that story:
“When you look at state and local consumer agencies on the front lines, auto sales and service is always the No. 1 problem people complain about, year after year after year,” said Rosemary Shahan, president of California’s Consumers for Auto Reliability and Safety. “Everyone and their brother wants an exemption, so car dealers aren’t alone. The question is, are they going to get away with it?”
Click here to read Teri’s full post and vote in her poll.
Campbell’s argument is that this consumer watchdog agency is called the “Financial” protection agency. Auto dealers just aren’t financial organizations, he insists.
But auto dealers are up to their necks in financial deals, the consumer groups point out.
“Loan financing represents a huge source of income for auto dealers,” says the letter, signed by Consumer Watchdog, Consumers Union, the California Public Interest Group, the NAACP, and many others. “While the vehicles themselves have never been better, auto sales and financing practices have never been worse. In fact, year after year, auto sales and service complaints, typically related to predatory lending practices at dealerships, rank number 1 among consumer complaints lodged with state and local consumer protection agencies.”
So back to the amendment. In a weird quirk, Campbell’s proposal was passed yesterday by a voice vote.
But then one lawmaker, Rep. Mel Watt, D-S.C., had a problem with one section of it and Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank held the amendment over for a roll call vote this morning.
Campbell said he’s counted heads and believes his amendment will pass.
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This is why I always vote for CAMPBELL!
Let’s see, he’s pushing a bill that will directly benefit his tenants and those who have contributed $170K to his campaign. This is why he will NOT be getting my vote in the next election. I don’t vote for politicians that sell themselves to the highest bidder.
He doesn’t need a campaign manager, he needs a pimp.
WE ARE SEEING THE TRUE COLOR OF REPRESENTATIVE CAMPBELL. LET US ALL IN ONE UNANIMOUS CHOICE VOTE HIM OUT IN 2010. SELFISH.
PEOPLE STRUGGLE WITHOUT HAVING MONEY TO PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE.
LET US VOTE HIM OUT AND ELECT A PEOPLE’S PERSON NEXT TIME
Do you even know what the amendment does? I think the answer is no considering your argument is that there are poor people. Hatred of “the rich” is a tired argument.
#1 Campbell has not worked for car companies for 6 years, so the House Ethics Committee ruled that there is NO conflict of interest.
#2 They contribute to his campaign because he is looking to make the system work better. They contribute because he represents logical reform. Until you have credible proof there has been a backroom deal or bribery of any source YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO MAKE THOSE ACCUSATIONS.
#3 Why regulate the loans that car dealers can give, if the original bill already has the CFPA regulating the loans that the financial institutions can offer to the car dealerships?
#4 The amendment passed BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE. It passed in a DEMOCRAT DOMINATED COMMITTEE. THAT MEANS THEY CROSSESD PARTY LINES. Your lack of knowledge on this topic is embarassing.
Maybe you should learn to not believe everything you read. Just because the media reports something, does not mean it is true or unbiased. Do some investigating before beschmirching the name of your honorable and hardworking Representative.
Did you even read the article? Doesn’t look like it. He addressed those things that you are accusing him of.
I am glad that he is my representative. Unlike most from both parties, its my understanding he doesn’t take earmarks. he seems to be a true fiscal conservative. I appreciate that and do plan to vote for him.
How about Obama and his big payout to the rich bankers and GM for donating to his campaign????
Dealers don’t lend anything, the banks that do either refuse to lend or charge exorbitant rates to people who don’t pay their bills. If folks don’t want to pay interest they can pay cash or try and get financing from their credit union.
I applaud Campbell for looking out for the best interests of our tax dollars.
Actually Mr Caseclosed it was the previous administration that started the bailouts and President Obama supported it. Oh, and for that matter the GM bailout did nothing but keep the very dealers Mr. Camabell is supporting in business which would have all been gone by now. Which way do you want it? I wish people could see that America has met it’s enemy, it’s ourselves. Vitriolic comment with no alternative solution other than to demean is senseless regardless of who is currently in office as the entire nation suffers for at least 4 years. Try running a company like that and see how long it lasts! You and the Disco-Kid should get together and discuss “factual stuff”.
Signed; an ex Republican for 45 years, and OC employer of 55 legal tax payers concerned about transparency and integrity who does “own” his cars!
Actually I think you forgot what really happened with the bailout of auto co’s. The union workers were protected but a lot of dealers had their contracts broken and so were out of business. The auto bailouts were something for Obama’s union supporters. Many dealers were shafted.
He did support the cash for clunkers bill which I disagree with as that was a farce. Well it helped the auto industry with more business, but clunkers? Give me a break. It added that part about clunkers to gain broader support and make it sound like it was helping the environment. If they had really wanted to do that, they would have required a bigger gas mileage differential between the “clunker” and the new car purchased. Shucks my 1998 Honda CRV meets the passenger car mpg standards–at least according to the original EPA ratings of 22/24 and it was considered a small SUV.
Barney Frank? Another new government agency? Keep up the good fight John!
There you go John, don’t let them tear you down. Keep working for the right solutions.
good job Rep. Campbell! Keep up the good work!
Kudos to Congressman Campbell - the last thing the car industry needs is yet another set of regulations that act like an anchor on their already overburdened ship of state. We need to cut the regulatory burden int his country so Americans can fuel our recovery not government!
I have to go with John on this one. We elect folks to Congress BECAUSE of their expertise and experience. Do you really want people who have no experience in an industry to weigh in on how that industry is effected by Washington? FIGHT ON, John!
“Campbell’s argument is that this consumer watchdog agency is called the “Financial” protection agency. Auto dealers just aren’t financial organizations, he insists.”
When a Auto dealership “sell” a loan to a purchaser the dealership is paid a commision for the sale. While the auto dealers are not “financial organizations” they do benefit by providing loans to their customers.
It’s about time someone stands up to dumb new regulations! Give ‘em Hell Campbell!
Whats the big suprise here? Owned a dealer group and that pretty much makes a shill for that industry period.
I am sorry you are a vicTOM of Republican Greed. I am a VICTIM of big government bureaucracy.
Dear OC Mom;
Please expand on your problem with government bureaucracy. From recollection it was (our) Republican administration that approved the initial 750b bailout etc. etc. I’m far from being a government advocate but since when have the majority of our citizens been able to do the right thing without having controls in place? In reality both sides have been playing “defeat the opposition” at any cost game for years and who pays, OC Mom and people like me, OC Dad (and employer of 55).
Remember, 99% of “government” stays in place regardless of party, I suppose one would ask why? One can deduce that since it’s been that way for President after President it’s the best either party can come up with. So what’s your best practice idea Mom?
Funny how he squelchs the native people of Orange County claiming that federal reconition will bring money hungry gambling intrests into Orange County and yet he is sitting at the table with a whole lot of chips of his own and using his elected seat to personally profit and stay in the game.
What a hypocrite.
I agree. Just another typical crooked bought and paid for politician. He just lost my vote forever. Dealership financing is a HUGE moneymaker. I absolutely despise Barney Frank but this is the first time and probably time that I’ll ever agree with him.
And what have you done for your neighborhood lately? Who is the hypocrite?
Maybe you should wait for an answer before you call someone names.
Props to user caseclosed comment, I think its ridiculous to say that Campbell cannot vote for certain industries because they donated to him. What about the industries, unions, etc that donated to Obama, can Obama no longer vote on what he and those industries and unions believe?
Nonetheless, there needs to be regulation to a certain extent, but some regulation is needless and adds unnecessary burdens on companies and businesses. And as said, the exemption of auto dealers from Consumer Financial Protection Agency gives Campbell no personal monetary gain. He simply wants to cut down the bureaucracy is is destroying competition and efficiency that is necessary to propel our economy.
They don’t just donate to his campaign, they are his tenants and have an ongoing business arrangement with him to the tune of $600k - $6 million annually. Another matter entirely.
Great Job Campbell….The Government doesn’t need to control one more thing, they already control more than they should….keep up the great work fighting to change this….
Way to go Campbell, we need leaders like this to fight excessive regulation!
This is not surprising at all. Campbell is lined up at the trough back in DC and represents the highest bidder. He couldn’t care less about the average man or woman. It’s all about filling the pockets with special interest money and doing favors for business partners and friends. I wonder if he’s going to debate Beth Krom this year??? He intentionally avoided any debate last year. He cowers in his office and declines to come public to debate the big critical issues. During the last election the $850 billion bailout was happening. Campbell voted for it. He REFUSED to debate his opponent and REFUSED to show up the an open debate at the UCI political forum which was cancelled because none of the incumbent republicans wanted to express their views publicly. HAH! For them to call themselves ‘representatives’ is quite a comedy. It’s all about pay for play. No pay - no play. Wake up, folks!
Thank God for Reps like John Campbell who use common sense in Congress, need more like him.
Cole,
Common sense??? You mean taking money from his buddies in the auto dealer industry where he made millions and, in return, writing an amendment to exempt that same auto dealer industry from the Consumer Act of 2009, one that all other businesses must comply with??? hmmm. Funny how he was so selective in his amendment. As if all other industries aren’t huring. And what about the consumer who is virtually dead in the water??? Losing jobs, homes and savings? Not very considerate of John, is it?? Sure, this might fill his pockets today (if you call that common sense). But what happens when these pesky facts get out to the electorate and Nov 2010 approaches??? How do you think that will work out??
You seem to be making a # of very irrelevant comments. This is not just a consumer protection bill it is for a Consumer Financial Protection Agency. So it is supposed to regulate financial services firms. While auto dealers to do loans, that is not the major thrust of their business.
Who cares if he is getting money from car dealerships, though it’s indirect it’s the same thing as campaign contribusions. As long as a politician opennly display what his/her potential bias may be it doesn’t matter who gives them money - none of that changes that he is rightly defending businesses that need help right now. His “bias” may just help him understand that.
Campbell isn’t protecting “business”. He is specifically protecting the auto dealer industry. An industry he was once part of an made multl-millions of dollars off. Who are you trying to hoodwink, Colin???
And tell John to come out into the open this election season and ACTUALLY debate his opponent instead of cowering in his office and thinking that his treasure chest will protect him from the competition!! hah. We are supposed to operate under a democracy here where the candidates face off and debate the critical issues of the day. When I ran for student council in high school I had to do that. Otherwise I would have had no chance of getting elected. Why would a federal representative believe that he can hide from the electorate during election season and that it’s okay in a representative democracy. Maybe you could explain that to me?
Good Job, John!!
A review of the facts proves this was the right move. No one with any automotive knowledge would classify the 1 or 2% finance commissions as big money - and consumers can ALWAYS arrange their own financing, for free.
Campbell is just a typical politician looking out for his own self interests. Yes, car dealers are in the financial game, big time. Look who calls the shot on every deal, the finance manager. John Cambell is still working for the industry that made his millions, and not for those who voted for him.
Campbell is looking out for the interests of average Americans, not his own self interest.
Campbell’s proposed amendment would not only benefit auto dealerships here in Orange County but across the nation as well. More than that, it would send a strong message to Washington that it’s time for government to assume its traditional, limited role. Economic growth and recovery will come from the bottom up, not from Washington down.
And for the record, Common Cause is not just a “consumer group.” They are liberal hacks pretending to care about accountability.
Just what we need, another redundant bureaucracy. Too bad Campbell wasn’t able to kill the whole thing.
“No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we’ll ever see on this earth!”–
Ronald Reagan
Campbell is doing the right thing! We need to stop over regulating businesses!
We need more businessmen like John in government who know how to run thing successfully. They bring expertise such as knowing that more regulation is the last the car industry needs.
And “doing business” with a company does not make you biased towards it. I “do business” with McDonalds every week by buying big macs, and I own shares of Pfizer. Just because there is that kind of connection doesn’t mean there’s evidence
This article is full of circumstantial evidence, and in this country the burden of proof lies in the prosecution.
This is insane. Why doesn’t he simply vote no on the entire bill if he is against federal regulation in the economy? The point here is, aren’t there other industries that should also be exempt? The auto industry should not be given a competitive advantage that other industries aren’t receiving because a member of Congress happens to be an advocate of that particular industry.
Let’s not forget that Congressman Campbell also voted for the Cash for Clunkers program, little government boondoggle that benefited his industry. Why not Cash for Houses, Cash for TVs, Cash for everything! He voted for the original bailouts back in 2008, and has stated he would have supported a smaller bailout in 2009 if it was geared to, get this, homes and automobiles. Read his blog.
I’m not saying Campbell is any more corrupt than any other member of Congress on both sides of the aisle, but for some of the commenters here to put him on this anti-government spending pedestal is a huge stretch in my opinion, and he needs to be called out on his mistakes.
That Cambbell the car salesman is weakening consumer protection is no surprise to me. What is amazing is the support he gets from voters who think he’s doing a bang-up job while he sells them out. There are some folks out there who will believe anything and Campbell knows just how to position them.
Great work Campbell. We need more leaders like you!
Campbell must have ordered his cronies to post comments of approval here. Probably all kool-aiders on the payroll. Anyone with a seed in his head can plainly see the pay for play scenario here. Campbell, being a former auto dealer himself, adds an amendment to specifically exclude the auto dealers from a Consumer Protection Act. This would be like dracula excluding all blood banks from a special business tax. HAH! Gee, what’s the motivation. I mean, come one. They aren’t even creative or interested in hiding this stuff anymore. They do it right out in the open for you to see! hah! And they couldn’t care less. Just goes to show how broken our system truly is. Our founding fathers must be twisting in their graves. Almost the complete opposite of what they designed. It’s a racket, folks. A big racket. And you are being played for fools!
Give um Hell, Congressman!
I doubt there is anyone in congress that knowS more about the auto industry than John Campbell.
Aren’t all of you tired of Obama and his socialist agenda?
We don’t need more regulation or more agencies.
I don’t know about all of you, but I am going broke paying for everyone else.
OBAMA, KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF OF MY MONEY & STAY OUT OF MY LIFE. IT IS MY MONEY, I MADE IT, I EARNED IT & I WILL SPEND IT LIKE I CHOOSE!
THANKS, MR. CONGRESSMAN FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK ON OUR BEHALF!
I WILL HELP YOU, AS WILL THOUSANDS OF OTHERS!
ocobserver, people like you are never happy and only know how to complain.
Don’t insult me, No one put me up to this post or anyother post.
I have a mind of my own. Thank you!
Mary, sure you do.
A congressman writes an amendment to protect ONE specific industry from the Consumer Protection Act of 2009, the auto dealers, and SURPRISE…. the same industry he was entrenched in and made multi-millions of dollars at. hah. and the industry that has filled his pockets with campaign contributions. Pleeeeze, Mary. Don’t insult our intelligence.
When you get a break at the office would you contact John and ask him if he plans to debate his opponent in the 2010 election season??? He refused to debate Steve Young in 2008. I know it’s an inconvenience. But at least feign that we still live in a represenative democracy and that the electorate should have a right to listen to the candidates debate one another in public before casting their votes. I know that’s an old fashioned thing for John. But gosh, have him read the constitution in his spare time. Maybe it will soften him up.
Enjoy your evening, Mary.
GREAT JOB CONGRESSMAN CAMPBELL! Glad to see Congressman Campbell once again standing up the the Democrats and their ridiculous big government plans to make it even more difficult for business owners to succeed.
Congressman Campbell said it best: “All this is trying to do is save them from needless regulation. It’s not like it’s a tax credit, not like it’s stimulus money.’’
“Government’s view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it. ”
-President Reagan
Thanks Congressman Campbell for speaking out agaist useless government regulation!
“Glad to see Congressman Campbell once again standing up the the Democrats and their ridiculous big government…..”
Umm, Andrew….Campbell voted ‘yes’ for the $850 billion dollar bailout in Oct 2008. Those were our taxdollars, Andrew. Gobblement money.
Campbell promoted and voted to give AIG execs big bonuses after they ran their corporation into the ground and took $180 billion of our taxdollars. Again, gobblement money, Andrew. John wanted to pay big AIG bonues with our tax money. Is that promoting small gobblement, Andrew??
Please, cut it out. I have more to add but will save it for your next comment.
Campbell is doing the right thing! He took a thought-out position on an important issue that he has considerable personal knowledge. Because of the possible perception of a conflict, he took the matter to the House Ethics Committee. And, after being cleared to take action by the House Ethics Committee, he successfully took action with his amendment approved today by a significant majority. I elected Campbell to honestly represent our interests in Washington, DC. I tend to stay out of the political rhetoric but anyone accusing Campbell of corruption really crosses the line. John is one of the most honest people that I know. You may challenge his political views but his integrity is of the highest level.
They hypocrisy imbedded in politics baffles me. Campbell is in a damned if you do damned if you don’t here- he has the expertise in the industry to make educated policy decisions and so his political opponents say he’s corrupt- it’s utter nonsense. He made the right call- business will be better off because of this bill and his opponents know it. Stop the inane BS about him selling people out- he’s giving the car industry room to grow without BIG GOVERNMENT holding them back. Good Work Campbell.
Oh so dracula took his issue before the transylvania ethics council and they rubber stamped it??? hah.
Just tell him to come out from underneath his desk at the office this election season and debate his opponent(s) in an open forum before the electorate for once. Just pretend we live in a representative democracy where the candidates actually defend their positions IN PUBLIC and earn their votes for once, okay? You know, like high school students are forced to do to hold school offices.
Is that asking too much???
Let’s recap….
ocobserver has given us the following since 9.46 this morning
1.) A history of his/her high school debate experience,
2.) Developed a vast conspiracy of ‘Campbell cronies’
3.) Insulted several readers here, and
4.) Somehow quixotically worked Dracula into the mix.
All in 7 posts ….Wow!
The world wonders, who is this mysterious ‘ocobserver’ that has so much time on their hands?
By the way you should get your facts straight… I checked, and this amendment passed on a bipartisan vote, it doesn’t do anything to the current regulations on dealers, and Campbell’s actions were approved by the ethics committee.
gohalos,
oh yeah. common tactic of the kool-aid boys: attack the messenger. when they can’t justify the actions of their owner they cast daggers at the messenger. hah. Bottom line here that needs to be repeated: Congressman wrote an amendment to protect a sole industry that he happened to be imbedded in a few years back and made millions of dollar from, and continues to rake in hundreds of thousand of dollar from their lobbyists WHILE allowing all other industries that are hurting from this terrible economic crisis to twist in the wind. hah. The people need to be aware of what’s going on here. It’s stinks.
And please tell your owner to feign being accountable to the voters by actually debating his opponents next election season, gohalos. The last time I saw him debate was during his first run. Then all the sudden he started hiding under the desk in his office. Steve Young never got a chance to debate Campbell because his invitations always got turned down. Someone needs to give him a Badge of Courage like the Lion in the Wizard of Oz so he will show up to debate before the public once in awhile. Ruff, ruff, ruff!!!
In the words of Sean Connery in SNL’s Celebrity Jeopardy, “ruff, the way your mother likes it.”
Seriously though, I want to thank you for bringing clarity and logic to this debate. As a moderate I always appreciated the nuance that liberals offered to the political debate, the insight into technical issues and seeing things in shades of gray are refreshing. I can clearly see that you are a nuanced thinker who employs a sense of rhetorical skill to get their point across. Those Democrats who voted with Campbell also were bolstering their political donors. Thank you ocobserver for finding corruption in every party! We are indebted to your service and and to your website’s service.
Hope it fails down the line. This is just a politician greasing the palms of those who will benefit him and not constituents. So when he runs again remember he is the one who wanted car dealerships etc opted out of the consumer protection law.
Campbell anti=consumer and constituents!
this is just another reason that when you vote, if the word incumbent is next to a name DON’T vote for that person. we need people in office to do what is good for us, and not for outside interest.
Voting against someone just because they are an incumbent is one of the dumbest things I’ve heard. There are incumbents of all political stripes who will be running for reelection in the coming years. They have voting records which are not all alike.
While I do not agree with everything that Campbell has supported, I agree with his basic philosophy which is that of a fiscal conservative who actually opposes pork, unlike it seems most from both major parties.
Rather than just vote against–or for– someone because that person is an incumbent, it makes more sense to actually study their philosophy and voting record and compare it to those who are running against that person.
“When it comes to campaign contributions, Campbell said, does getting money from the auto sector mean he can‘t vote for any bill advocated by them? “”This is absolutely absurd,’’ he said. Based on that logic, Campbell said, “every one of us would be exempted from voting on nearly every thing we vote on.’’
Government would come to a screeching halt
I think it says it all! (:^)
ps between 600K and 6Mil is a bit too narrow of a range don’t you think - such a burden to track
Amazing how quick people are to be suspicious of someone supporting an industry, simply because they have or had some type of affiliation with it. Can’t that just make them more knowledgeable and aware of what works and what doesn’t ? Does it always have to mean their crooks , and only interested in lining their own pockets?
Any crook with a brain wouldn’t be so obvious.
Its a sad day in America that we trust no one , and find fault with reform just to show our contempt for the person behind it.
Thank God for John Campbell. I will continue voting for John Campbell.
this Rep. never meets his constituents or hold a town hall meeting and he just votes for what can benefit him and not his constituents. He has not brought anything to Orange COunty and is not responsive to us.
this Rep. does not meet with his constituents and address their needs, we need true representation for all of Orange County and he does not address ecological concerns we have, remember the Trestles, and is proud when he said that he does not bring in money for his district, remember when they were asking for money for backbay and he did not get the money, what are wesending him there for, and to work for who
“Second, Campbell said he hasn’t been involved in the car business for the past six years.
Third, he says he ran his amendment by the House ethics committee and was told it was not a conflict of interest for him to offer it.”
WHAT? BECAUSE HE’S BEEN OUT OF THE CAR BUSINESS FOR 6 YEARS HE DOESN’T OWE THEM ANYTHING? REALLY? IS ANYBODY BUYING THAT CRAP?
AND HE RAN IT BY THE “ETHICS COMMITTEE” SO HE’S CLEAN? YEAH, THAT’S THE B.S. THEY TRIED TO SELL US HERE IN NEWPORT BEACH WHEN SOME OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE ALL LOCKED UP ON THE THINGS THEY WERE VOTING ON…
SORRY, DOESN’T PASS THE SMELL TEST.
AB’S MOM:
He is a politician’s, so yes, being obvious comes second nature to them, as does payback to the guy’s who contribute to keep them in office.
Arrogance is another trait they all share or they wouldn’t try to pull the sh%$ they do.