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	<title>Comments on: Millions misspent by Irvine-based California Avocado Commission</title>
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	<description>Your tax dollars at work.</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Grrrr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grrrr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good thing I'm on the Ketchup Advisory Board instead of in this guacamole mess.  Oops, I'm late to my pedicure - er, I mean important state business meeting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thing I&#8217;m on the Ketchup Advisory Board instead of in this guacamole mess.  Oops, I&#8217;m late to my pedicure - er, I mean important state business meeting.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenifer W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenifer W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another great expose, Teri!

"Truth," who are you sleeping with?  Uniforms from Nordstrom &#38; Ann Taylor?
$600 to $800 a night hotel rooms?  And yes, the board participated in the lavish spending and should be thrown by the members.  Since the irregularities were discovered in an audit, everyone is running for cover and pointing the finger.

Amusing comment by Chairman of Board,"“I’m extremely unhappy that we were hoodwinked. I think our good nature was taken advantage of by our former president and CEO,” said Avocado Commission Board Chairman Rick Shade. “I would like the people to know the board has seized control of this commission and is working very hard to make things right.”

Hmmm.....  Since Shade &#38; the rest of the board &#38; spouses enjoyed their stays at the luxury hotels, it appears their hands are not clean either!    Here are their names:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great expose, Teri!</p>
<p>&#8220;Truth,&#8221; who are you sleeping with?  Uniforms from Nordstrom &amp; Ann Taylor?<br />
$600 to $800 a night hotel rooms?  And yes, the board participated in the lavish spending and should be thrown by the members.  Since the irregularities were discovered in an audit, everyone is running for cover and pointing the finger.</p>
<p>Amusing comment by Chairman of Board,&#8221;“I’m extremely unhappy that we were hoodwinked. I think our good nature was taken advantage of by our former president and CEO,” said Avocado Commission Board Chairman Rick Shade. “I would like the people to know the board has seized control of this commission and is working very hard to make things right.”</p>
<p>Hmmm&#8230;..  Since Shade &amp; the rest of the board &amp; spouses enjoyed their stays at the luxury hotels, it appears their hands are not clean either!    Here are their names:</p>
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		<title>By: Worried for Saddleback Church</title>
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		<dc:creator>Worried for Saddleback Church</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 01:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LN,

As the article says, the avocado growers are paying for this commission, not you.

LN Says: 
January 13th, 2009 at 11:01 am
An “Avocado Commission”?? Why are we even paying for this at all?

I certainly hope that Saddleback Church takes a serious look at this guy. Anyone who thinks that it is ok to spend $17,000 to convert their garage using other peoples money does not hold the same values as the rest of us. To me it would be preposterous to spend someone elses money improving my home. What is stopping Mark Affleck from spending money on his lavish lifestyle using the tithes from Saddleback Church?  Especially if he is part of the Global Outreach? How many lavish hotels can he stay in around the world while he is performing his job?   And for Truth to state in the comments that the clothing expenses were most likely for uniforms, that is hogwash. Who buys uniforms from Ann Taylor?  When I had to work at a convention, I was expected to use my own money to purchase a suit.  What a load of baloney. Obviously Truth is employed by the company or married to someone who is. Just because you write it, doesn't mean the readers will believe it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LN,</p>
<p>As the article says, the avocado growers are paying for this commission, not you.</p>
<p>LN Says:<br />
January 13th, 2009 at 11:01 am<br />
An “Avocado Commission”?? Why are we even paying for this at all?</p>
<p>I certainly hope that Saddleback Church takes a serious look at this guy. Anyone who thinks that it is ok to spend $17,000 to convert their garage using other peoples money does not hold the same values as the rest of us. To me it would be preposterous to spend someone elses money improving my home. What is stopping Mark Affleck from spending money on his lavish lifestyle using the tithes from Saddleback Church?  Especially if he is part of the Global Outreach? How many lavish hotels can he stay in around the world while he is performing his job?   And for Truth to state in the comments that the clothing expenses were most likely for uniforms, that is hogwash. Who buys uniforms from Ann Taylor?  When I had to work at a convention, I was expected to use my own money to purchase a suit.  What a load of baloney. Obviously Truth is employed by the company or married to someone who is. Just because you write it, doesn&#8217;t mean the readers will believe it.</p>
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		<title>By: Truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"waste not want not" lays a very good point.  Obviously the state wants more rules and regulations.  Sounds like things were not very strict before.  Past decisions in the company need to stay in the past in a  tactful way, not like this.  I've heard Mark was a great leader.  He probably doesn't deserve to be judged and brought down like this since regulations were not in place the way the state wants them NOW.  Let it go and move forward!  Life is too short &#38; precious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;waste not want not&#8221; lays a very good point.  Obviously the state wants more rules and regulations.  Sounds like things were not very strict before.  Past decisions in the company need to stay in the past in a  tactful way, not like this.  I&#8217;ve heard Mark was a great leader.  He probably doesn&#8217;t deserve to be judged and brought down like this since regulations were not in place the way the state wants them NOW.  Let it go and move forward!  Life is too short &amp; precious.</p>
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		<title>By: Truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"waste not want not" lays a very good point.  Obviously the state wants more rules and regulations.  Sounds like things were not very strict before.  Past decisions in the company need to stay in the past in a a tactful way, not like this.  I've heard Mark was a great leader.  He probably doesn't deserve to be judged and brought down like this since regulations were not in place the way the state wants them NOW.  Let it go and move forward!  Life is too short &#38; precious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;waste not want not&#8221; lays a very good point.  Obviously the state wants more rules and regulations.  Sounds like things were not very strict before.  Past decisions in the company need to stay in the past in a a tactful way, not like this.  I&#8217;ve heard Mark was a great leader.  He probably doesn&#8217;t deserve to be judged and brought down like this since regulations were not in place the way the state wants them NOW.  Let it go and move forward!  Life is too short &amp; precious.</p>
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		<title>By: safedriver</title>
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		<dc:creator>safedriver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man I'm in the wrong business, that is if I was crooked.  Hey Rick, you better start looking at the people that the church is hiring.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man I&#8217;m in the wrong business, that is if I was crooked.  Hey Rick, you better start looking at the people that the church is hiring&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Ipolitico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ipolitico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 08:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need to urgently  pass a county-wide measure that controls the pay and perks for all the higher ups working in the County of Orange Government, from the CEO thru the BOS and down to the Adminstrative mangers.

If they don't think they get paid too much, unlike what the taxpayers believe we need to immediate start a signature drive that controls their compensation and rids them of perks.

There is a special election in early 2009 so lets do it.

I would say given the current economic conditions and all these stories in the OC REgister  regarding the pay and perks of these so called public servants, the  OC voters would wait in a hour line just to sign a petition to put this measure to the voters.

Let's do it ... All these Water district execs, county execs, BOS need to  cut it out the fat and since they are not willing to cut their pay and their fellow cronies, we need to do it.

If they don't like it, too bad. They all can try their hand in the private sector or file for unemployment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to urgently  pass a county-wide measure that controls the pay and perks for all the higher ups working in the County of Orange Government, from the CEO thru the BOS and down to the Adminstrative mangers.</p>
<p>If they don&#8217;t think they get paid too much, unlike what the taxpayers believe we need to immediate start a signature drive that controls their compensation and rids them of perks.</p>
<p>There is a special election in early 2009 so lets do it.</p>
<p>I would say given the current economic conditions and all these stories in the OC REgister  regarding the pay and perks of these so called public servants, the  OC voters would wait in a hour line just to sign a petition to put this measure to the voters.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s do it &#8230; All these Water district execs, county execs, BOS need to  cut it out the fat and since they are not willing to cut their pay and their fellow cronies, we need to do it.</p>
<p>If they don&#8217;t like it, too bad. They all can try their hand in the private sector or file for unemployment.</p>
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		<title>By: waste not want not</title>
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		<dc:creator>waste not want not</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 06:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The EX-CEO was making $500K for years if you count perks. ...yes he is a villan but the board and the industry knew that for decades, they just didnt know he was stealing so blatantly. So the Board itself is also guilty - asleep at the wheel like normal Boards usually are:


YOU MAY FIND THIS INTERESTING:

From the State of California California Avocado Commission Charter:

ARTICLE 3 SECTION 67062. The state is not liable for the acts of the commission or its contracts, except for state-directed supervision of the avocado inspection program....

No member of the commission or alternate member, or any employee or agent thereof, shall be personally liable on the contracts of the commission nor shall a member, alternate member, or 
employee of the commission be responsible individually in any way to any producer or handler or any other person for error in judgment, mistakes, or other acts, either of commission or omission, as principal, agent, or employee, except for his or her own individual acts of dishonesty or crime. 

No member or alternate member shall be held responsible individually for any act or omission of any member of the commission. 

The liability of the members shall be several and not joint, and no member shall be liable for the default of any other members.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The EX-CEO was making $500K for years if you count perks. &#8230;yes he is a villan but the board and the industry knew that for decades, they just didnt know he was stealing so blatantly. So the Board itself is also guilty - asleep at the wheel like normal Boards usually are:</p>
<p>YOU MAY FIND THIS INTERESTING:</p>
<p>From the State of California California Avocado Commission Charter:</p>
<p>ARTICLE 3 SECTION 67062. The state is not liable for the acts of the commission or its contracts, except for state-directed supervision of the avocado inspection program&#8230;.</p>
<p>No member of the commission or alternate member, or any employee or agent thereof, shall be personally liable on the contracts of the commission nor shall a member, alternate member, or<br />
employee of the commission be responsible individually in any way to any producer or handler or any other person for error in judgment, mistakes, or other acts, either of commission or omission, as principal, agent, or employee, except for his or her own individual acts of dishonesty or crime. </p>
<p>No member or alternate member shall be held responsible individually for any act or omission of any member of the commission. </p>
<p>The liability of the members shall be several and not joint, and no member shall be liable for the default of any other members.</p>
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		<title>By: T.O. Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>T.O. Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ruling in the Milk Advisory Board case was not that "false advertising didn't matter because it was a govt agency". The ruling was that there are some cows that still graze in open fields in CA, and therefore the advertising is not false. It doesn't represent that all cows in CA are raised that way. If they were, and ate wild grasses, then milk production and taste would fluctuate, and consumers would complain about that. However, I agree that the advertising is completely misleading and that modern husbandry is disgusting at best.

These agricultural commissions are funded via assessments on growers/producers, and they help all of us by increasing sales of California products to outside the state. While I agree they need to be audited, they are hardly a waste or boondoggle as some seem to think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ruling in the Milk Advisory Board case was not that &#8220;false advertising didn&#8217;t matter because it was a govt agency&#8221;. The ruling was that there are some cows that still graze in open fields in CA, and therefore the advertising is not false. It doesn&#8217;t represent that all cows in CA are raised that way. If they were, and ate wild grasses, then milk production and taste would fluctuate, and consumers would complain about that. However, I agree that the advertising is completely misleading and that modern husbandry is disgusting at best.</p>
<p>These agricultural commissions are funded via assessments on growers/producers, and they help all of us by increasing sales of California products to outside the state. While I agree they need to be audited, they are hardly a waste or boondoggle as some seem to think.</p>
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		<title>By: Thatchmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thatchmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think some of these comissions are nothing more than gentlemens clubs that think no one is paying attention to what they're doing.  Do they really need to go to a resort for their big get togethers.  You can go to an Embassy suites or Hilton and rent out one of their meeting rooms for a lot less.  Or better yet, set up a meeting tent at one of the growers orchards and stay at Best Western.  Good job OCR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think some of these comissions are nothing more than gentlemens clubs that think no one is paying attention to what they&#8217;re doing.  Do they really need to go to a resort for their big get togethers.  You can go to an Embassy suites or Hilton and rent out one of their meeting rooms for a lot less.  Or better yet, set up a meeting tent at one of the growers orchards and stay at Best Western.  Good job OCR.</p>
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