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		<title>By: Dave Blodgett</title>
		<link>http://taxdollars.freedomblogging.com/2008/09/25/management-company-fears-violence-from-73-year-old-woman/874/#comment-2745</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Blodgett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lou Skogen</title>
		<link>http://taxdollars.freedomblogging.com/2008/09/25/management-company-fears-violence-from-73-year-old-woman/874/#comment-2647</link>
		<dc:creator>Lou Skogen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob Miller, you know there was a major conflict of interest here.  You are trying so hard to cover that up.  GRF was never mentioned in court papers, only PCM Inc. and PCM of CA, Inc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob Miller, you know there was a major conflict of interest here.  You are trying so hard to cover that up.  GRF was never mentioned in court papers, only PCM Inc. and PCM of CA, Inc.</p>
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		<title>By: B. Miller</title>
		<link>http://taxdollars.freedomblogging.com/2008/09/25/management-company-fears-violence-from-73-year-old-woman/874/#comment-2645</link>
		<dc:creator>B. Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CLEARING THE AIR
   Concern has been expressed that PCM utilized GRF's legal counsel, Hart, King and Coldren to file an injunction against Village resident, Lou Skogen.
   At the GRF's Closed Session Meeting on Sept. 2, 2008, the Board was advised that HKC had reviewed several harassing and threatening emails sent by Ms. Skogen to staff, and that HKC recommended that intervention was necessary in order to protect the interests of GRF. During the meeting, the Board discussed obtaining a restraining order against Ms. Skogen, and GRF voted to direct HKC to file such a motion in Superior Court. GRF directed this action to protect its agent per the management agreement because the PCM employees who received the harassing, threatening emails, were acting in the course and scope of their role as Managing Agent for the Board when they were received.
   On Sept. 18, 2008, HKC filed a motion for a temporary restraining order naming two PCM employees who received the threatening emails. The motion sought to prohibit the resident from having further contact with the Staff members.
   All four boards have the responsibility of protecting the members of the Community and our Managing Agent's employees.
   In addition, Ms, Skogen has sent very insulting e-mails to me and other Board Directors. Receiving insults and not reacting to them is part of Directors' job duties (First Amendment rights).  But, threats to employees are very serious.  That is why the GRF Board directed HKC to pursue this matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CLEARING THE AIR<br />
   Concern has been expressed that PCM utilized GRF&#8217;s legal counsel, Hart, King and Coldren to file an injunction against Village resident, Lou Skogen.<br />
   At the GRF&#8217;s Closed Session Meeting on Sept. 2, 2008, the Board was advised that HKC had reviewed several harassing and threatening emails sent by Ms. Skogen to staff, and that HKC recommended that intervention was necessary in order to protect the interests of GRF. During the meeting, the Board discussed obtaining a restraining order against Ms. Skogen, and GRF voted to direct HKC to file such a motion in Superior Court. GRF directed this action to protect its agent per the management agreement because the PCM employees who received the harassing, threatening emails, were acting in the course and scope of their role as Managing Agent for the Board when they were received.<br />
   On Sept. 18, 2008, HKC filed a motion for a temporary restraining order naming two PCM employees who received the threatening emails. The motion sought to prohibit the resident from having further contact with the Staff members.<br />
   All four boards have the responsibility of protecting the members of the Community and our Managing Agent&#8217;s employees.<br />
   In addition, Ms, Skogen has sent very insulting e-mails to me and other Board Directors. Receiving insults and not reacting to them is part of Directors&#8217; job duties (First Amendment rights).  But, threats to employees are very serious.  That is why the GRF Board directed HKC to pursue this matter.</p>
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		<title>By: SpenceOC</title>
		<link>http://taxdollars.freedomblogging.com/2008/09/25/management-company-fears-violence-from-73-year-old-woman/874/#comment-2502</link>
		<dc:creator>SpenceOC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These management companies are all scummy at the very best.  It's nice to see that people that have grievances can get a little press time now and again!  These people are without shame, so it's good to press a little shame when the opportunity arises.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These management companies are all scummy at the very best.  It&#8217;s nice to see that people that have grievances can get a little press time now and again!  These people are without shame, so it&#8217;s good to press a little shame when the opportunity arises.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears she was pro per in the case.

I was not aware of the relationship that existed between Hart, King and Coldren of Santa Ana and the organization.

The management company has their own legal team that was the reason the management increase the fees it charged to the association.

It really seems interesting and as mentioned before the books seems padded with interested "expensed" items.

Has anyone filed with the Attorney General on their handling of the mutual benefit corporation as a member?

I would urge those residences that have concerns to form an ad hoc committee and endorse members to replace the Board and then start a petition to remove all current members in a special election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears she was pro per in the case.</p>
<p>I was not aware of the relationship that existed between Hart, King and Coldren of Santa Ana and the organization.</p>
<p>The management company has their own legal team that was the reason the management increase the fees it charged to the association.</p>
<p>It really seems interesting and as mentioned before the books seems padded with interested &#8220;expensed&#8221; items.</p>
<p>Has anyone filed with the Attorney General on their handling of the mutual benefit corporation as a member?</p>
<p>I would urge those residences that have concerns to form an ad hoc committee and endorse members to replace the Board and then start a petition to remove all current members in a special election.</p>
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		<title>By: feelgood</title>
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		<dc:creator>feelgood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan, believe it or not, HKC is not the cousel for PCM in or out of California.  HKC is the counsel for the four boards (GRF, United, 3rd, Towers).  Note that none of the boards are party to the action.  Note also that there was no legally noticed meeting at which GRF met to approve the use of HKC in this action.  This was also not an emergency employee safety action since the time delay between the e-mails and the action (SLAPP) was about a month.  This is not an emergency if you can wait a month to act.  More to the point will Skogen file against PCM for emotional distress and damages (her counsel.)  Most of us hope she will do that; we have had it with intimidation from the bully boys at PCM (and GRF.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan, believe it or not, HKC is not the cousel for PCM in or out of California.  HKC is the counsel for the four boards (GRF, United, 3rd, Towers).  Note that none of the boards are party to the action.  Note also that there was no legally noticed meeting at which GRF met to approve the use of HKC in this action.  This was also not an emergency employee safety action since the time delay between the e-mails and the action (SLAPP) was about a month.  This is not an emergency if you can wait a month to act.  More to the point will Skogen file against PCM for emotional distress and damages (her counsel.)  Most of us hope she will do that; we have had it with intimidation from the bully boys at PCM (and GRF.)</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 04:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dismissal without prejudice is a dismissal that allows for re-filing of the case in the future.

We will wait to see what PCM or PCM of California (two cases filed and dismissed without prejudice) will do at the advice of their counsel Hart, King and Coldren of Santa Ana.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dismissal without prejudice is a dismissal that allows for re-filing of the case in the future.</p>
<p>We will wait to see what PCM or PCM of California (two cases filed and dismissed without prejudice) will do at the advice of their counsel Hart, King and Coldren of Santa Ana.</p>
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		<title>By: feelgood</title>
		<link>http://taxdollars.freedomblogging.com/2008/09/25/management-company-fears-violence-from-73-year-old-woman/874/#comment-2443</link>
		<dc:creator>feelgood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 03:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As predicted, PCM has withdrawn the petition for a restraining order.  Bad publicity or bad kharma?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As predicted, PCM has withdrawn the petition for a restraining order.  Bad publicity or bad kharma?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Zuzak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Zuzak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 15:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ZZZZZZZZZ"S                                                                                
Our Gen. Manager ( Milt Johns) was distressed and fearful because he did not like what was said in an E Mail. He has hired attorney Bill Harts firm to handle it, so there goes more of our residents money raising our assessments. Milt join the crowd, how many seniors do you think have lost sleep when our management fee went up 83% over the last few years ( $ 350,000 to over $600,000) How many seniors were distressed and fearful when our chief financial officer tells us that PCM has saved us millions of dollars but our assessments keep going up. Where did the millions go? Who knows, surely not to lower assessments. How many seniors lost sleep when they learned about thousands upon thousands of dollars on credit cards and reimbursements expenses for lunches,dinners, parties, birthday parties, gifts, and etc. The shame of this is that the residents did not even know these cards exsisted. These same cards are the ones that Milt Johns said were to be used for emergencies only. How many seniors are distressed and fearful when they found out about PCM giving themselves an incentive bonus plan that the residents nor our boards knew nothing about.When you read all of this it kind of answers the question. Why are assessments  going up? It's hard to believe that PCM (Milt Johns) is managing  Laguna Woods Village efficiently. I believe that if we stick with Milt Johns (PCM) managing style we will suffer profound and lasting harm financially. It is time now for residents to work together for a more efficient managing system that puts the residents first and that honors our ideals of integrity, transparency, accountability and freedom of choice.
 
Robert Zuzak</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ZZZZZZZZZ&#8221;S<br />
Our Gen. Manager ( Milt Johns) was distressed and fearful because he did not like what was said in an E Mail. He has hired attorney Bill Harts firm to handle it, so there goes more of our residents money raising our assessments. Milt join the crowd, how many seniors do you think have lost sleep when our management fee went up 83% over the last few years ( $ 350,000 to over $600,000) How many seniors were distressed and fearful when our chief financial officer tells us that PCM has saved us millions of dollars but our assessments keep going up. Where did the millions go? Who knows, surely not to lower assessments. How many seniors lost sleep when they learned about thousands upon thousands of dollars on credit cards and reimbursements expenses for lunches,dinners, parties, birthday parties, gifts, and etc. The shame of this is that the residents did not even know these cards exsisted. These same cards are the ones that Milt Johns said were to be used for emergencies only. How many seniors are distressed and fearful when they found out about PCM giving themselves an incentive bonus plan that the residents nor our boards knew nothing about.When you read all of this it kind of answers the question. Why are assessments  going up? It&#8217;s hard to believe that PCM (Milt Johns) is managing  Laguna Woods Village efficiently. I believe that if we stick with Milt Johns (PCM) managing style we will suffer profound and lasting harm financially. It is time now for residents to work together for a more efficient managing system that puts the residents first and that honors our ideals of integrity, transparency, accountability and freedom of choice.</p>
<p>Robert Zuzak</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 18:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Milt Johns afraid of being beaten up by Ms. Skogens? I hope Milt Johns mother is still living so she can give him one big slap across his face. Can he not be replaced by a real man....a real gentleman, an actual businessman? Shame on you Mr. Johns, you make me want to vomit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Milt Johns afraid of being beaten up by Ms. Skogens? I hope Milt Johns mother is still living so she can give him one big slap across his face. Can he not be replaced by a real man&#8230;.a real gentleman, an actual businessman? Shame on you Mr. Johns, you make me want to vomit</p>
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