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The “smear campaign” against the Boy Scouts
August 25th, 2008, 4:30 pm · 35 Comments · posted by Teri Sforza, Register staff writer
The Watchdog knows she will upset people when she starts nosing around in the finances of charities.
Talking about money is so impolite - especially when the money belongs to near-and-dear-to-the-heart causes like the Boy Scouts.
After the Watchdog’s posts about the top salaries at the National Boy Scout Council, and the $629 million the national scouts hold in securities, she found herself on a blind-copy email from a Mission Viejo scout volunteer titled “OC Register Smear Campaign.” ”Do not let the OC Register bash your organization,” the writer said. “They only want to print incorrect information.”
I had a nice exchange with this gent, who we will call Alan. I told Alan that I was sorry he felt that printing the facts, as reported in the Boy Scouts’ own tax returns, was “bashing.” Alan’s response was thoughtful, and he gave me permission to use parts of it here (but not his last name) to express the point of view of a father whose children are in both Boy and Girl Scouts.
Said Alan:
I am just concerned as the articles never reflect the number of members these resources serve. The articles further fail to mention the Community Service provided by this organization.
Yes, the revenue growth is down and it can be said that such media articles only serve to further hinder their capacity rating through the decrease of revenue growth.
I would like to urge you to go past El Toro National Cemetery before Veterans Day and watch the Scouts place flags on grave sites. These flags are purchased by the Community through fundraising activities. Oh go to San Clemente Beach where the Boy Scouts of America in Mission Viejo adopted the beach and work their numerous times and through various organizations such as Surfrider and the Coastal Commission in cleaning the shores.
I was there with my family once and felt bad that People would even consider littering in light of these kids and families taking time to pick up after them for my benefit of having a clean beach.
Or do we need to comment about the troops that used some of these travel dollars to go on-site during Katrina to provide emergency food and help rebuild the community….
What is even more upsetting is your articles are placed within the category “Tax Dollar” Watchdog Forum. I have to remind you that these holdings and their expenses are NOT paid for by mine or your tax dollar. They only receive the same tax benefit as the million other non-profit organizations in the US. I do not want to see the Boy Scouts or Girl Scouts attacked based on their financial activities that are meant to ensure the survival of their programs through investments both physical and monetary.
Thank you for your efforts and again I want to strongly encourage you take your writings to the next level and show the benefit the Scouting programs provide to the Community and to the development of our Youth.
So I told Alan that the reasons non-profits come under the Watchdog purview are articulated here, but that the meat-and-potatoes of it was this:
For every three dollars donated to charity, the government forfeits a dollar or so in tax revenue.
And it’s a matter of public trust. The Internal Revenue Service gives nonprofit organizations a big break - not charging them income taxes. And, of course, many nonprofits don’t pay property taxes on the properties they own, either. So, there IS an actual cost to society for the work nonprofits do, and the money they collect.
No one is saying that cost isn’t more than compensated for by the good these organizations do. We’re certainly not saying that Scouting is bad! What we are saying is that the finances of the top tier of scouting deserve some examination, especially by those in Scouting themselves.
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As mention my view point does not represent the Scouting Organization and is only from a Father who has two children (boy & girl) in the Scouting Organizations.
I challenged the writer to go into the Community and see if the see felt our loss of $200,000 in tax revenue should do what the Scouting Organization does each year. Here is my followup email to her following her last reply:
I would still like a more detailed and direct involvement in the preparation of a follow up article through actual hands-on opportunities. I really think that the Community has no problem providing ongoing financial support for Scouting and to give the People true journalism would require more involvement then my few examples.
Regarding tax-exemption status:
You are correct that tax-exemption status does prevent the government from increasing their revenue pool. However, such Watchdog activities should be then placed against organizations such as churches, foundations ran by families solely in the interest of their own family members with even higher salaries. I know that is a judgment statement as I do not have any named foundation to give you with that argument. Additionally, we could argue such increase in revenue would not benefit our young children through any form of leadership training.
Also another action item would be the discontinue of military support at Camp Pendleton when they turned a blind eye to public law and stopped financial support of a Boy Scout Campsite last year (or the year before) at Los Flores. They use the argument that the Scouting did not fulfill their lease requirements; however, they were limited by numerous Federal and State laws - the same ones that prevent the toll roads from being completed, including the inability to dig on protected land more then a few inches thus preventing any foundation repairs.
In reference to the salaries:
Even the Girl Scouts in recent years have increased their salaries while still maintaining nearly 3 times more net assets. Also YMCA is also experiencing rough times in fundraising and revenue growth. The Boy Scouts capacity rating is horrible as revenue continues to decrease and this is likely in part to our Country’s overall economic downturn and their investment holdings.
I have an 11:00A meeting so I need to take a little time to prepare; however, I am fine with my comments being published as Alan and would only ask that instead of printing my comments is to go into the Community with the Scouts and notice the difference it is making in their life.
True Journalism requires True Involvement in the Community.
A Scouting Father of Two,
Alan
Maybe someone should investigate the finances of taxdollars.freedomblogging.com? I wonder what they’d find?
If they have nothing to hide, maybe taxdollars.freedomblogging.com should voluntarily post its financial statements for all to see.
If not, what are you hiding? Hmmmmm?
I agree with the writer of the article, the pay at the top seems way out of line. Many parents sacrifice more of their income to keep their children in the scouts. The Boy Scouts need to cut the pay at the top:
Roy Williams $589,143.
David J Ross $888,583.
Kenneth Connelly $750,472.
Hey Fred. If the Orange County Register was a nonprofit corporation, and was thus free from paying income (and some other) taxes, you would be perfectly within your rights to ask for such financial information from it!
As it happens, though, the Register is a privately-held company, and pays taxes.
Alan - Please shut up, you have too uch time on your hands to write long replies. Blogging in its spirit are short witty answers and thoughts, not long novels…..any chance you are a lawyer? Don’t answer, we will all get bored and scroll down to something witty and funny. Write your thoughts to the Wall Street Journal or Santa Claus.
Why does Ashok Alexander have wages and deferred comp over $580K as Aids Outreach in India with the Gates Foundation?
Why are the top three executives of the Gates Foundation paid a half million dollars each for their work?
Why is the Gates Foundation spending $7.8M on planning how to spend money?
Or $12M in investment management? Actually they do get a very nice dividend return on their well planned investments. I guess the Scouts can do better by paying their executives what they earn and getting some better investment planners by and paying them $12M a year too.
Why is Gail J. McGovern the CEO of the Red Cross paid $600K not including differed compensation?
Why is John Seffrin the head of the American Cancer Society paid nearly a million dollars in salary, benefits and differed compensation?
Why is the American Forest Foundation only spending $3M of its $153M annual revenues for programs?
Why is Ben Paul with After-School All-Stars still paid a quarter million dollars when his organization had a loss by spending more then two times their revenue?
Can you explain why Michael A. Friedman is making over a million dollars a year in salary, benefits and differed compensation as the head of the City of Hope? Oh their fundraising expense is 4 times that of the Boy Scouts and administration expense is nearly 15%…
How about look at Jobs with Justice whose administration expense is 3x their program expense!!!
Here is a kicker for everyone - William R. Brody earned nearly $2M in salary, bonuses and differed compensation… another non-profit executive.
Although the CEO of The Association for Firefighters & Paramedics earns less than the average charity, it is hard to justify a six figure salary for someone who runs a charity that spends only 2% of its $3.9 million budget on its programs and services.
Ok there are some people that work and run top non-profit organizations for no salary. Let us take Edwin K. Zechman of Safe Kids Worldwide he runs an $18M revenue organization (not a $193M revenue organization). However, he does get a small affiliate bonus of $1,987,857 a year…
Oh, Safe Kids Worldwide is a non-profit organization as well.
How about the FORMER president American University who draws $4.3M from his non-profit?
Again why does this writer only look at the Boy Scouts whose active executives make a 1/5 the salary as a former president of American University?
Before you make any judgments about salaries higher or lower than this average, Charity Navigator encourage you to look at CEO compensation as a percentage of total expenses. A charity CEO compensation of $200,000 for an organization spending $20 million per year (1%) probably seems much more reasonable than the same salary for a $1 million organization (20% of expenses for one person).
These charities are complex organizations, with multi-million dollar budgets, hundreds of employees, and thousands of constituents. These leaders could inevitably make much more running similarly sized for-profit firms. Furthermore, when making your decision it is important to consider that it takes a certain level of professionalism to effectively run a charity and charities must offer a competitive salary if they want to attract and retain that level of leadership.
Roy Williams for the record was replaced last year by Robert J. Mazzuca. The percentage of overall expense to top executives is right in line with 1%.
Let us compare real issues like charities who are in the red and still paying their executives a quarter million dollars with a merely 3% of revenues being spend on programs.
Anyone? If the true issue of Ms. Sforza is the $1.2M in absent tax revenues for the government. (Direct public support of Boy Scouts was roughly $3.5M) Then my challenge would be to show the how the government would spend that $1.2M to change the life of over 3 Million Registered Scouts. Good Luck that only gives them less then 0.40 cents per Scout. Maybe we can give them a free candy bar and they will become future leaders.
jeez2m Says:
August 25th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
Alan - Please shut up, you have too uch time on your hands to write long replies.
Got to love those people who like to tell others to get a life. Impressive…
Some thoughts on this subject
“Tolerance is the virtue of a man with no convictions”
“If there were no God, there would be no atheists.”
“He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative.”
“If you attempt an actual argument with a modern newspaper of liberal politics, you will have no answer except slanging or silence.”
G.K. Chesterton
Alan,
I for one will be sending a donation the Boys Scouts of America Orange County Council.
Wow - thank you.
I am tearing up from your first comment. I just felt personally attacked in these writing as someone who tries hard to make a difference in my Community both physically and monetarily. Tolerance and Understanding.
You know I did not realize this very simple fact as I have ability to help others and it was not until johnb’s comment about how it is difficult for him and others with limited resources to make a difference financially.
We can all find our unique gifts in helping our Community.
Thank you for helping our family, Community and countless other Scouts in making a difference for others while learning to become great leaders of tomorrow.
I don’t see a smear campaign. I see reporting. I am a father of two scouts and very active in scouting leadership. I felt the trust we as volunteers and donors placed in the council was violated when they went on the infamous Florida boondoggle.
I appreciate people letting me know when things don’t seem right to them. It gives me an opportunity to evaluate once again my investment. This holds true for any charity I support.
I expect the Orange County Council to feel the sting of negative public sentiment and work harder to regain our respect and trust.
Shooting the messenger is a time honored tradition and apparently still quite in vogue here.
Alan,
The OC Register has been biased in its assessment of the Boy Scouts of America.
I do not know why Ms. Forza is spending so much time assessing BSA national when there are clear cut administrative abuses and excesses here in the OC.
This blog strikes me as similar to the wave of a magician’s hand. The magician waves their hand to distract the gullible from watching the other hand’s slight movement hiding the object.
One wonders what the Boys and Girls Club budgets look like.
Since Forza and others are so dedicated in their attack on the BSA, the comparative transparency at Boys and Girls Club and their tie to hospital activity in the county should be examined.
Strongsidejedi,
I am sure that everyone who has a less than flattering article written about them thinks they are the subject of reporting bias.
If anything is going on at the Boys and Girls Club that hardly excuses the Orange County Council’s behavior now does it? Or is this one of those cases where it is OK if everyone is doing it? How does that work with my bumper sticker that reads:
“America is returning to values Scouting never forgot”
Speaking of transparency, didn’t the Register spend almost $1 million dollars building a dungeon where they torture the truth?
CM Resident & Scout Leader,
It is a time honored tradition to investigate the facts. 10% of the National expenses are for administration. 90% to programs.
The head of the OC Council had a mere 3.6% increase in pay, added additional staff, increased holdings, building new locations (Outdoor Nature Center) while only adding $100,000 program administration management cost.
Regarding Florida, I guess non-profit employees are not allowed to stay in hotels, drink like other executives and have a little fun while away from their family and loved ones at training. I guess I better not mention that I took my family to San Diego with me for the weekend to attend the Grankmaker Training at a very nice 5 star hotel.
In this case of using the numbers that came from a National Organization was purely a disconcern to our Community as the writer finally realized and then attempted to pull the numbers from our own local council which actually showed an even worse case of underfunding based in part from United Way.
Both the Boy Scouts and Girls had a decrease in revenue that places their programs at risk. With the expansion of programs and the addition of the Outdoor Nature Center it is critical that the Community comes behind these efforts with their support.
The smear campaign against a non-local organization in Irving, TX is purely a smear attempt to distract us from what is important and that is the lack of funding for these programs on a local level. See follow up articles.
Why did the writer pick the Boys Scouts in Irving, TX instead of the Association for Firefighters & Paramedics RIGHT HERE in Santa Ana who spent a mere $80K on programs out of the $3.9M in expenses?
You must question the agenda.
Alan,
I find it interesting that you refer to the Florida trip as “training.” Any training I have taken with BSA has been paid for out of my own pocket and I make considerably less than Mr. Baron does. If he requires training to do his job then I suggest he find it and pay for it himself.
And while we are on the subject of Florida. My FOS contribution, as generous as it was, could not have covered the tips Mr. Baron paid to his wait staff while on that trip. Talk about marginalizing a contributor! But again, David Hirz had no problem with it did he? I guess we just run in different circles.
I like your suggestion of investigating the facts. Some of us attempted to do just that and were essentially told to mind our own business by Mr. Baron’s office. That is solid volunteer management for you.
None the less, I will take you at your word that Les received a 3.6% increase in pay. That is awfully generous for someone who has overseen a drop in revenue. I doubt my boss would be so understanding.
Bringing up United Way? I understand that the Council had a great deal of advanced notification of UW’s change in funding policy. Why was that such a shock and surprise to everyone? The council had to know it was coming, or did they just think UW was pulling their leg?
As for your Grankmaker Training (whatever that is), once again all is good because someone else is doing it too? Once we progress in maturity beyond about three years of age I expect that argument to be retired. Why are you hanging on to it?
I don’t question the OCR agenda, I know full well what it is. Their agenda is to stay in business selling news. What I question is how long Orange County Council can afford Les Baron. I guess as long as David Hirz wants to keep shelling out the big bucks to pay him, eh?
Alan who paid for their trip to Florida? With their pay, they should have been responsible for the total cost from their own pay checks.
On your trip to S.D. did you pay your own way?
Alan,
I am fairly certain that in CM Resident you have come up against a seminar blogger; a person or group of people all of the same politcal persuasion that cruise the news blogs and pose as an authority or person in the know to deride and disparage those they do not agree with in an attempt to stiffle debate. The give away? The following sentnce used by CM.
“Once we progress in maturity beyond about three years of age I expect that argument to be retired. Why are you hanging on to it?”
It’s typical of their tactics.
This was the response I received regarding the amount Les received.
Why is his salary increase not available? I still don’t understand that.
Also, for the record I was also told that there is a salary increase each January.
“As you know, this year, Les Baron received his annual cost of living
increase, as did his staff members. Although Les’ increase is
confidential, I assure you that it was much lower than the rate of
inflation.”
Dave Hirz
Chairman of the Board
Orange County Council
Boy Scouts of America
CM Resident & Scout Leader,
So ongoing training should not be part of the overall mission of organizations? These trainings help ensure continued and ongoing resources for the organizations. And from what I remember it was some small .25% of their overall expenses by the organization for the year. PS. That is a point before the 25.
Let us look at all the cost of living increases to People who do the same job. We should take those away too. I am sure your boss will understand.
Regarding United Way I guess it is time to put your money in its place as the Community still has not filled that gap with so much advance notice.
I love the mature comment regarding the 40 some organizations that attended this conference to help us in distributing the billions of dollars our charities give back to the Community. Sorry we spend any money to better others. At least a three year old could understand that concept so we might want to remain here for your benefit.
If you can do better I encourage to volunteer your full and undivided time to the Boy Scouts, for free.
johnb,
No it will be expensed as the overall training I received is for the benefit of the organization, including the trip to Sea World for my family. Oh, I forget to expense the bus ride to meet up with my family at Sea World. I better add that $5.00 to my expense report.
Seeking Alfalfa,
We only stay here in reference to the maturity level for her understanding only.
KymSue,
We are not allowed to have cost of living. All non-profit workers cannot live in a house and must sleep in tents.
Alan,
Again, I haven’t a clue what the “Grankmaker Training” is you refer to, but if it is important to you, go for it. Once again, I hope I have not contributed money to anyone that funded your family going to a 5 star hotel and Sea World. If you can provide a link to their website that would be helpful.
I would like to point out that you can be 100% behind the BSA program, even spend innumerable amounts of personal time and money on it without being an apologist for the council’s management.
I know that I and dozens of other registered adult leaders fall into that category.
So when you challenge someone to give up their personal time to do a better job, in my case, been there, done that, and I am still doing it.
Les has a job because you and I and a thousand of others just like us spend “1 hour a week” to provide the program that Baden Powel launched. I don’t think it is too much to ask that he is held accountable.
But if you are happy with the status quo, good for you.
CM Resident,
Grantmaker Training Sessions are programs that foundations attend in order to learn different processes to grant money to organizations from various foundations, such as Gates Foundation, Family Trust. Various organizations apply for monies to provide anything from pet population control to community after school programs. We are trained on review 990s and learn from other organization on their policies and procedure used to determine who would get monies to do what they feel are worthy causes.
The number one thing that most grant writers (makers) look for is the ability for an organization to manage cash flow. The last thing any grantmaker wants is their money to be used one time and no future return of value.
We look at holding assets and determine if the dividends represent a fair portion of their revenue (ensures future ability to preform). So when BSA was attacked on their holdings I felt that any lack of these holdings would limit security and capacity. Now the OC BSA has a very small asset holding of $12M and the return does not represent 10% of program expenses for the organization. That holding should be, in my opinion, at least $16M based on their program expenses.
However, I might assume some of the principal is being used for the construction of the Outdoor Nature Center. This is likely an investment strategy to increase cash flows.
The Grantmaker Trainings allow these individuals who represent billions of dollars in charity money to best and most effectively make changes in their grantees abilities to operate their organization. It is also a nice time out of the office - and yes likely at the expense of some people reading these blogs - however, the knowledge is powerful asset to everyone that attended.
I do not feel that Orange County Council has or is mismanaging the funds. The numbers do not indicate that at all. They might even state that programs should be cut based on the decline of revenue growth and them taking a hit on capacity rating for a short period of time.
I have to admit that yes I do need to spend more time in the Scouting with my kids and volunteer more of my time other then the hour or two a week for den meetings and service projects. I can not justify my lack of involvement. The reference to giving up your time was taking over the role of the Scout Executive for less then $450K and increase the capacity rating and show us how you will increase asset holding to help ensure the life of the Council.
As far as accountability I do not see any mismanagement from the 990 filing for CY 2006 FY 2007.
As far as the status quo, I admit I do need to increase my personal involvement. The operations of OC Council is not status quo with tough decisions being made everyday. The last thing I would want is someone who is paid 125K a year (no offensive to anyone in my office or the Community) to operate as the CEO.
Thank you for your ongoing support both financially and physically. You and the entire Council members, executives and other parents are making a huge difference for my kids and the Community.
Alan - Every BSA blog has your long, boring diatribes. It is a blog Alan, short, sweet, witty and to the point then check-out! Are you really Roy Williams or Bob Mazucca or the PR guy for the BSA?
Alan - We will probably find you on the 990 next year as a PR contractor huh?
jeez2m,
I am sorry I thought we were having a relevant discussion and not mere useless posts. I would not do Lara Fisher’s job for how much she is paid as the OC Council Spokesperson. Sorry.
I thank you for the comment and offer to take on that role. I guess these long boring posts and the article itself are actually beneficial.
Now do you have anything of value to add to enhance the article or conversation for other readers?
Alan - I am going to give you a job to add some value and enhance our conversation: You need to go through these BSA blogs and count the number of Alan entries and total words to that of all the rest of us. Then, report back to us with your new findings and let us know how close they are to the real OCBSA compensation to program ratio of 50:50. Many of my OCR friends and I are waiting anxiously for your report.
I’ll answer with facts.
Let’s compare the BSA executive salary to the salaries of another “kid” oriented OC organization… Children’s Hospital of Orange County.
CHOC is a major advertiser in OC Register and their community papers too.
So, they won’t post these things without having a phone call from their PR team.
The top paid executives at CHOC consume $4,369,374 in tax payer funds. The top paid independent contractors consume another $28,180,343 in tax payer funds.
Highest paid executives (consuming $4,369,374.00 in 2005)
(Page 9 of 32 appears to list Kim Cripe and Kerri Ruppert salary as zero. This unusual statement is also reflected in a statement on the Board of Directors. However, if you look at the tax return for Children’s Healthcare of California (a related organization), you will find the pertinent information. It appears that Ms. Ruppert chooses to post her salary related to CHOC on the CHC return. It is also interesting that the Children’s Healthcare of California return lists that Kim Cripe spends 2 hours per week working on the non-profit.
$1,101,159 - Kim Cripe - Chief Executive Officer - $846,394 in compensation, $215,965 in benefits, and $38,800 in expense accounts
$679,794 - Kerri Ruppert - Chief Financial Officer - $517,989 in compensation, $136,561 in benefits, and $25,244 in expense accounts
$630,424 - Maria Minon - Ex-officio Director - $441,664 in compensation, $168,489 in benefits, $20,271 expense account
$400,223 - Mark Headland - VP & Chief Info Officer - $311,194 in compensation, $79,342 in benefits, $9,687 expense account
$387,372 - Dana Bledsoe - VP Patient Services - $292,566 in compensation, $79,415 in benefits, $15,391 expense account
$384,629 - Margaret Conk - VP Business Development - $277,699 in compensation, $87,209 in benefits, $19,721 expense account
$280,331 - Theresa E. Gianfortune - VP Human Resources - $220,109 in compensation, $70,254 in benefits, $9,968 expense account
$271,990 - David R. Schinderle - VP Finance - $196,870 in compensation, $61,107 in benefits, $14,013 expense account
$233,452 - Steve O’Kane - Ex-officio director - $213,000 in compensation, 0 in benefits, $20,452 in expense account
Save your kid’s life or go camping……hmmmm
2000 employees, 50 employees……hmmmm
8 years of graduate school and 0 years…..hmmmm
Goverment oversight, no oversight……hmmm
The Jedi needs to listen to the force a bit more, different game, different story…drag out the Campfire, YMCA or Girl Scout #’s………..or how about the Smithsonian oh Jedi Knight?
Here are the unsmeared facts on the management of Boy Scouts here in Orange County:
Between 2000 and 2006 Boy Scouts of America has more then doubled their revenue growth.
Between 2003 and 2006 the Boy Scouts sold over $4M in assets. This includes camp assets in the amount of $1.4M following back to back years in 2002 & 2003 of less then half the normal public contributions. Since then asset sales are under control with less then 200K gain from security sales in 2006.
Les Baron replaced Kent Gibbs as the Scout Executive in 2004 at a savings of $100,000 in compensation in 2004! Since 2004 under Les Baron management program revenues continue to increase over a $1M annually as Scouts pay their share for program sponsered events - and yes scholarships are available for those who cannot afford the $30-35 weekend fees for camp. I strongly urge the Community to support fundraising efforts as a portion of the revenue (30% average) remain with the Pack to help their neighborhood based families attend the Scouting programs at a reduced cost.
Under Les Baron management public support nearly doubled since 2003 following back to back years where revenue from public contributions was flat.
Now I personally think Les Baron is worth the same if not more salary then Kent Gibbs was paid for his outstanding efforts to clean up the balance sheet and promote Scouting to the Community.
The fact remains that 2006 was an adjustment year as public contributions went from nearly $12M to $7M due in part to an economic slowdown and discontinue of support for Community Organizations that support leadership in our Youth by the United Way.
If you want to look at the numbers yourself, download them from GuideStar.
While this blog is busy pursuing its progressive agenda couched under a now-tarnished, journalistic veil of integrity, let a member of the “internet” estate chastize the “4th” estate for their lack of objectivity and reporting.
I can say this with certainty because of the contracts and agreements being written between the Boys and Girls Clubs and the CHOC executives. Care to publish those contracts?
Is this being counted as a part of the 4.5 million a year in service program revenue for CHOC or for the Boys and Girls Club?
TERI:
When a blog has to be used to do your job, it really brings into question the real motives of the journalists involved. The reader is left to ponder if you have another agenda here?
For this reason, it would be a wise idea to stop the pantomime and start publishing some real facts instead.
There is one big difference between Boy Scouts and Boys and Girls Clubs.
Boy Scouts learn to survive on their own without $4.5 million dollars in tax payer handouts.
Let’s talk about the structure of the BSA versus the Boys and Girls Club clinics which you know so well.
Or should we not?
Is this just about throwing more mud at the BSA and flag while the progressives are throwing another $1 million a month at their favorite charities?
Why don’t you do some homework during your day job and stop pestering volunteer scout leaders?
Why don’t you post the REAL FACTS on the hospitals instead of posting rickrolling pointers to a non-existant story in your “Non-profit” link?
Why don’t you come clean on your own funding for yourself first?
Or, are you immune from the disclosure and transparency because you are a blogger?
No offense, but there is a big difference between BSA’s volunteer programs and the under performance in the local healthcare system which results in the deaths of our fellow citizens.
and, we’re not done yet tonight.
Contractors? Did somebody say Contractors?
5 Highest Paid Professional Independent Contractors (2005) at CHOC consuming $21,218,679 in one year
Temporary Staffing Services - $8,816,771 - Comforce Technical Services - PO Box 31001, Pasadena, CA 91110
(must use ALOT of temps for 8.8 million a year!)
Management Services - $8,083,470 - Schaller Anderson of CA, LLC - 1120 West La Veta Ave. 450, Orange, CA 92868
(must use ALOT of management for 8 MILLION DOLLARS)
Medical Director and Services - $2,608,386 - Pediatric Subspecialty Faculty, 455 South Main Street, Orange, CA 92868
(CORPORATE PRACTICE OF MEDICINE ANYBODY?)
Consulting Services - $1,281,417 - Accenture LLP - PO Box 70629, Chicago, IL 60673
(Anybody found an Arthur Anderson reject?)
Management Services - $428,635 - Red Chip Nevada - 18009 Sky Park Circle Suite B, Irvine, CA 92614
(Pass me a red chip in Vegas…better yet, how about a Mexican siesta and a party on a ship?)
5 Highest Paid Independent Contractors for “Other Services” consuming $6,961,664 in 2005 at CHOC
Software services - $3,386,720 - Cerner Corporation - PO BOx 412702, Kansas City, MO, 64151
(anyone found an Oracle DB that actually reports data?)
Advertising - $1,300,143 - DGWB Advertising - 217 N. Main Street, Suite 200, Santa Ana, CA, 92701
(THAT IS 1.3 MILLION DOLLARS… Anyone at Freedom want to comment on how much of that goes in the pocket of the REGISTER and clouds this discussion?)
Insurance Services - $802,784 - National Benefits Partner - 303 East South Temple, Salt Lake City, Utah 84111
Insurance Services - $785,277 - Met Life Dental - Dept CH 10579, Palatine, IL 60055
Software Support - $686,740 - Siemens Medical Solutions - PO Box 120001 Dept 0733, Dallas, TX 75312
Strongisjedi’s posts are clearly off topic, no matter how much he tries to tie them in. At first, I thought he was just trying to move us on to a bigger target as some sort of diversionary tactic. Now, it appears that he wants us to talk about what he wants to talk about.
I vote to delete the off topic posts—including this one. I also motion to put a frozen yogurt machine in the cafeteria. All in favor?