Search:
powered by
OC Watchdog ~ Your tax dollars at work.

The half-billion-dollar Boy Scout stash

August 25th, 2008, 7:00 am · 49 Comments · posted by Teri Sforza, Register staff writer

boy-scouts-emblem.jpgWe told you earlier about the high salaries of top executives at the Boy Scouts of America National Council.

More remarkable, perhaps, than a Scouting exec earning nearly $900,000 a year, is the $648.6 million that the Boy Scouts have managed to accumulate in net assets.

  • That includes $629 million invested in publicly-traded securities. 
    • Of that, $528.6 million is unrestricted, meaning the Scouts can spend the money however they like.

WHOA!

Why does a nonprofit that collects money from little boys for camping trips, and asks them to sell popcorn outside local supermarkets, need more than half-a-billion dollars in the bank?

We asked this question of Boy Scout spokesman Deron Smith on Wednesday, and expect to hear back from him any moment. We’ll post his comments as soon as we do.

To be fair, the National Council does give cash grants every year to support needy Scouts. A total of $3,000 went to five Orange County Scouts ($600 each), according to the most recent tax returns (available upon free sign-in at www.guidestar.org).

Other bits that caught The Watchdog’s eye from the Boy Scouts’ tax returns:

  • The National Council owns real estate worth about $78.4 million
  • $11.1 million was spent on travel and conferences
  • $189,000 was spent on lobbying legislative bodies

The Boy Scouts National Council earned a mediocre two of four possible stars from Charity Navigator. Revenue was down nearly 10 percent over four years, and spending was down nearly 4 percent.

More Watchdog:

Reader comments: We want this to be a place where people discuss and debate ideas that foster stronger communities. We expect people to differ -- judgment and opinion are subjective -- and we encourage free speech and the exchange of ideas. But you are participating in a community that is intended for all of our users and we prohibit profanity, vulgarity, racial, sexual and homophobic remarks, threats, harassment and personal attacks. Here's the full User Agreement. Thank you for making this a safe place worth preserving and sharing. Share this: The icons below make it easy to share this post with others. First icon e-mails a link.
  • E-mail this story to a friend!
  • Digg
  • Sphinn
  • del.icio.us
  • Facebook
  • Mixx
  • Google

49 Responses to “The half-billion-dollar Boy Scout stash”

  1. Alan Says:

    hmmm…..

    So what is being said is that Boy Scouts should not own any camps for their kids. They should not own any buildings for their staff. They should not hire top professionals.

    Again this is a clear manhunt against organizations that serve the youth of our community by an organization that wants to see them own nothing and do nothing for these kids.

    Sorry OC Register I think the majority of the readers are educated enough to see the truth.

    90% of all revenues by both Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts goes directly into their programs. A mere 10% goes to salaries. And yes, they have campgrounds for their members.

    What harm is being done?

    Oh sorry a 4,000,000 Member organization has to function with just over a mere $200 in assets per member. And why even mention the lobbing monies spent?

    Wait that is less then a DIME a member (0.06 cents) spent on lobbying. hmm… I am not one to compare; however, how much are teacher unions paying to lobby the government for more spending?

    Again these articles do not reflect the truth that:

    Boy Scouts owe less then $200 a member in assets
    Spend less the 0.06 cents a member on lobby

    Their rating is down ONLY because their capacity to continue their programs is down based SOLELY on their decrease in revenues. Oh did we forget that they keep spending over $4M a year to defend their members?

    How about the tens of millions of hours of volunteer work they have provided so far this year?

    I guess they should not raise money and just work to clean up beaches, deliver food to the needy or even recycle used and unread newspapers?

    Sorry Scouts we need to close all camps as Boy Scouts is only about volunteer service and no reward. Sorry kids Boy Scouts cannot own $200 in assets per member because it is too much and all we can own is $5 a member so your Scout hat is ours.

    Let us look at how much the payroll line is by percentage at the OC Register and compare which organization is having the greatest impact on the Community?

  2. asd;flkj Says:

    Go Alan!!!

    Well put!!

  3. Edward Says:

    I’m with Alan!! BSA is one of the greatest youth organizations in this country!!

  4. Michael Doss Says:

    Great especially if you like federal subsidization of a rich organization and open prejudice against gays and atheists!

  5. Kustom55 Says:

    Amen Alan, amen. I am an Eagle Scout and have seen how this award/my time with the BSA has benefited me throughout my career. This article is just yet again another attack on a wonderful organization.
    If anyone is interested there is a wonderful book called On My Honor by Texas governor Rick Perry. It is a great book to read if you are tired of seeing pointless articles and the ACLU trying to rip apart the BSA.

  6. Dan Says:

    More power to them. How could that possibly be a bad thing? Other organizations should look them up for advice. Good job Boy Scouts.

  7. SeekingAlfalfa Says:

    Everytime I think the knucleheads at the Register have sunks about as low as they can go they drill on down to a new low. First you guys support a known gang of drug dealers and pimps called the Hells Angels and now this

  8. Joe De La Riva Says:

    They’re just being prepared!

  9. AJ Says:

    Nice try at trying to be like OC Weekly. It’s better to wait to get both sides of the stories before speculating on the possibility of some kind of scandal (Journalism 101)

    Don’t worry, us readers are more patient than you think, take your time getting all the information right before posting anything (Bloggers 101)

  10. Johnb Says:

    So far no one has answered the question: Why do they have $629 million invested in publically-traded securities? I would not give one dime to any group holding this much in stocks.
    It appears the adminstration is using the children to line their own pockets.

  11. Alan Says:

    johnb,

    $629 Million at a 5% return provides a revenue stream of about $30M a year to support their programs. This would represent roughly 15% of their overall revenue source. Of which 90% is used in their programs.

    So you can understand the capacity rating is hit hard as the return is likely not 5% and actually less which shows the organization might be unable to continue in the same capacity without additional revenue sources.

  12. Johnb Says:

    Alan, no where does it say what the earnings are on the stock holdings, and if those earnings are actually used for scout programs. With that much money in stocks, why are they always asking for scouts to pay for camping expenses?
    In another post you said:
    “Both Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts use 10% of their revenues to pay for salaries and administration.

    Both Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts use 90% directly in their programs.”

    Where did you get that information? Do you have a link?

  13. Johnb Says:

    If each family had to pay $30 and each scout had to raise another $50, how much did the Boy Scouts organizaton pay? What was the actually cost for each scout?

  14. Alan Says:

    johnb,

    Let me see the actual campgrounds was virtually no cost to us and the fees paid for the packs food and supplies for event. Actually the camp fee was $3.00 from what I remember.

    I highly doubt the pay of the various staff members, maintenance of the grounds, buildings (believe it or not they owned buildings - oops more assets) and vehicles was covered by our mere $3 fee.

    Based on my business knowledge I would calculate that the Boy Scouts of America contribute at least 600K to 700K a year to the camp. So let me see that would be about $60-70 a Scout that used the site last year. That does not include the other camping sites that are maintained and used by the Scouting Organization in their training and development programs.

    Also note that the fundraiser we did last year raised just over $1,000 and paid for various community service projects in addition to their camping reward. These included Beach Clean Up supplies, Hiking Path Repairs, World Conservation Project, Naturist Education and donation to Back to Natives, oh and a $50 donation to the educational program at Home Depot.

    Also note that our pack dues each year are another $100 to further subsidize our mission to be a leader in Community support through volunteer opportunities.

    Again are we ready to talk about what Scouts provide to our Community.

  15. the23skidoo Says:

    This is much ado about nothing. . .

    Alan’s math demonstrates a correct understanding of the financial situation of the organization. Compensating a person 1MM to run such an organization with the scope and responsibilities that scouts have is a bargain.

    The Girl Scouts (GSUSA) are not really too different. They have several hundred million in assets and have little girls hawk cookies door-to-door to fund initiatives - yet I have not seen a hit piece by Miss Sforza on the Girl Scouts.

    The boy’s who go through the scouting system, become the men who form the back-bone to this society - parents know this and journalists such as Ms. Sforza just don’t get it.

    It’s has become too fashionable to tear down organization’s that build boy’s into men and frankly I’m sick of it. . .

    I never see a viable alternative offered by such misanthropic writers, nor do I see atheists or gays putting together a better organizations. It’s easy to be a critic - put up or shut up.

  16. Johnb Says:

    Volunteer service should not cost anything, so should not be included. Unless the scouts are giving things away to help others.
    It’s the $629 million they have in the market that bothers me. The Girl Scouts have less then $150 million.
    The scouts also have a 2 star rating.
    I know the scouts themselves do alot of good for the community, it’s the higher ups in the administration making almost $500,000 a year, that’s a problem. The top Girl Scouts administrator makes less then $200,000.

  17. Johnb Says:

    While many scouts and their families struggle to make ends meet each month, the top people in the organization are making a very nice living. For people running a NON PROFIT organization, I think the pay is way out of line.

    Roy Williams $589,143.
    David J Ross $888,583.
    Kenneth Connelly $750,472.

  18. Alan Says:

    johnb,
    Volunteer Service should cost nothing and the Community should come out and support the Boy & Girl Scouts community activities. However, it does cost parents money to do various activities and even those that benefit others. It is part of being a leader in the Community.

    As you mentioned you will not longer support local troop and scouts efforts to better the Community so we now have to look elsewhere from People in the Community who want to support change in the life of these kids. That is your choice.

    Again regarding the salaries that is a mere 10% and is the same percentage as Girl Scouts. I looked over the 990s of both the Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts and my assumption that the investments are for secure revenue source is true. Boy Scouts received 34M in dividends while Girl Scouts received only 2.4M from their 133M in public stock.

    Oh and these investments are for companies that provide jobs and economic growth in our Community.

    Since you are unwilling to donate or get involved in supporting the volunteer and community activities in your Community I can understand your thought that such activities should be free and not cost anything. They cost money and time to make a difference.

  19. david walker Says:

    Ask for a copy of the OCC BSA annual audit (public). 90% does not go to program. Out of a 9M budget about 50% goes to salaries and benefits. They consider time spent organizing popcorn sales and Friends of Scouting campaigns as “program” time and count that part of the salary as program. Very deceiving. Compare the 990 to the audit to the Annual Report to the FOS brochure and you will see the twist and spin that is done.

  20. Johnb Says:

    What percentage of the parents of scouts income go toward the organization, compared to those at the top?

    Roy Williams $589,143.
    David J Ross $888,583.
    Kenneth Connelly $750,472.

    The average congressman makes $165,200.

    If you want to talk about giving to the organization, lets start at the top. Bring their pay closer to a congressman’s pay or even the Girl Scout leadership’s pay.

  21. Andrew Says:

    Do the math you morons. The Orange County BSA is an 8M$ a year organization. It is documented on guidestar.org that just Les Baron and his management team alone make over $900,000 a year….that is over 10% on salaries for just 6 people and there are over 50 additional employees if you look at the roster on their website at ocbsa.org. The average OC’er is at $60k so 50 more people is $3M more plus the $900K which is just about 50% in salaries in a very conservative estimate…….maybe the stated 10% in salaries and 90% in program as others have stated is just another “shell game” to keep you giving.

    Why don’t all of you do a little more reading and digging before regurgatating the OCBSA and Scouting rhetoric…..after all, most countries in the world, Scouting is 100% volunteer. No paid people, no budget.

    Maybe a few guys found a good thing and are milking all of us? Why not call Roy or Roger or Les?

    OCWATCHDOG, thanks for asking the questions, looks like youve hit a nerve with a few folks which means, keep diggin’!!

  22. bryce Says:

    Andrew is an idiot. Get your info right. There are not 4M Scouts. There are about 800K Scouts, 1M Cub Scouts and 2M “Learning for Life” participants that most councils use your donations to pay the National Council to register and add to their pot of dough. Learning for Life participants may sit in class and get a sticker for a character lesson then get registered as a “Scout” for the whole year. So, your camp math is a little “fuzzy” as you obviously don’t have your facts and maybe need to see where your $ is really going.

  23. bryce Says:

    Oh Alan………….what a great point, the Boy Scouts of America (camping, time with parents, outdoors, badges) are contributing to the economic system by hording $600M in cash instead of using it for kids that can’t afford to join or go to camp or own a uniform? What’s next, the YMCA or UCLA or the Salvation Army supporting the economics of the World Bank to support Africans or Cubans or whomever? Your point is not a point simply clouded thinking.

  24. Alan Says:

    To 23skidoo - Nice comment full of homophobeia and hatred, “nor do I see atheists or gays putting together a better organizations. It’s easy to be a critic - put up or shut up.” Do you hear yourself? So if I am gay or atheist I can’t organize something better than the Boy Scouts for my kid just because I am gay and/or atheist? Why is that? Where are your facts? He/she is gay so there is no way they could do Scouting? ohhhhh and they are atheist, so no way they could teach their kids to be good citizens and to give back???? The blog is about overpaid employees and lots of money being saved for who knows what (not kids). Get a clue and comment on the article and read the facts! You obviously have an agenda and would probably have the same well-thought;-out comments on Girl Scout cookies or pedophile priests.

  25. bubba Says:

    Only Japan and the USA have non-coed Scouting and only one Scouting choice. In France for example, there are 3 Scouting organizations. About time someone said enough of the monopoly and started another here in the US where all kids were welcome and old white men from the South weren’t getting $1M paychecks to go to conferences and workshops all year long.

  26. tod Says:

    Alan - 2 million of the members are not SCOUTS they are in LEARNING FOR LIFE. They dont go to camp, earn merit badges or wear a uniform. You are quick on the blogging (maybe we should call your employer) but slow on the facts. Your numbers are all bad, get them straight (call Ernst & Young for some help) then blog us back. Signed - even 2nd graders are smarter than ALAN

  27. jeez2m Says:

    Delete Alan’s “The Town Drunk” opener. Please give all of us your sources for your numbers besides the back of your beer bottle.

  28. Teri Sforza, Register staff writer Says:

    Gentlemen, please! We encourage you to disagree in a civil fashion, without personal attacks.

  29. Alan Says:

    Why does Ashok Alexander have wages and deferred comp over $580K as Aids Outreach in India with the Gates Foundation?

    Why are the top three executives of the Gates Foundation paid a half million dollars each for their work?

    Why is the Gates Foundation spending $7.8M on planning how to spend money?

    Or $12M in investment management? Actually they do get a very nice dividend return on their well planned investments. I guess the Scouts can do better by paying their executives what they earn and getting some better investment planners by and paying them $12M a year too.

    Why is Gail J. McGovern the CEO of the Red Cross paid $600K not including differed compensation?

    Why is John Seffrin the head of the American Cancer Society paid nearly a million dollars in salary, benefits and differed compensation?

    Why is the American Forest Foundation only spending $3M of its $153M annual revenues for programs?

    Why is Ben Paul with After-School All-Stars still paid a quarter million dollars when his organization had a loss by spending more then two times their revenue?

    Can you explain why Michael A. Friedman is making over a million dollars a year in salary, benefits and differed compensation as the head of the City of Hope? Oh their fundraising expense is 4 times that of the Boy Scouts and administration expense is nearly 15%…

    How about look at Jobs with Justice whose administration expense is 3x their program expense!!!

    Here is a kicker for everyone - William R. Brody earned nearly $2M in salary, bonuses and differed compensation… another non-profit executive.

    Although the CEO of The Association for Firefighters & Paramedics earns less than the average charity, it is hard to justify a six figure salary for someone who runs a charity that spends only 2% of its $3.9 million budget on its programs and services.

    Ok there are some people that work and run top non-profit organizations for no salary. Let us take Edwin K. Zechman of Safe Kids Worldwide he runs an $18M revenue organization (not a $193M revenue organization). However, he does get a small affiliate bonus of $1,987,857 a year…

    Oh, Safe Kids Worldwide is a non-profit organization as well.

    How about the FORMER president American University who draws $4.3M from his non-profit?

    Again why does this writer only look at the Boy Scouts whose active executives make a 1/5 the salary as a former president of American University?

    Before you make any judgments about salaries higher or lower than this average, Charity Navigator encourage you to look at CEO compensation as a percentage of total expenses. A charity CEO compensation of $200,000 for an organization spending $20 million per year (1%) probably seems much more reasonable than the same salary for a $1 million organization (20% of expenses for one person).

    These charities are complex organizations, with multi-million dollar budgets, hundreds of employees, and thousands of constituents. These leaders could inevitably make much more running similarly sized for-profit firms. Furthermore, when making your decision it is important to consider that it takes a certain level of professionalism to effectively run a charity and charities must offer a competitive salary if they want to attract and retain that level of leadership.

    Roy Williams for the record was replaced last year by Robert J. Mazzuca. The percentage of overall expense to top executives is right in line with 1%.

    Let us compare real issues like charities who are in the red and still paying their executives a quarter million dollars with a merely 3% of revenues being spend on programs.

    Anyone? If the true issue of Ms. Sforza is the $1.2M in absent tax revenues for the government. (Direct public support of Boy Scouts was roughly $3.5M) Then my challenge would be to show the how the government would spend that $1.2M to change the life of over 3 Million Registered Scouts. Good Luck that only gives them less then 0.40 cents per Scout. Maybe we can give them a free candy bar and they will become future leaders.

  30. Johnb Says:

    Alan, I agree the other CEO’s of non-profits are way over paid too. The Boy Scouts just happens to be the one we’re talking about now.
    I don’t see the Gates Foundation out there asking families to support them. I believe they get funding from Bill Gates, Microsoft and other large companies.
    This idea of “level of professionalism” and “competitive salary”, you see this from politicians trying to justifiy their high pay. It doesn’t fly. I’m sure there’s alot of other people more quaified, that would do the job for alot less.

  31. Alan Says:

    johnb,
    Then here is your challenge:

    Help the Boy Scouts of America find a qualified Eagle Scout (I believe that is one of the requirements so I am not eligible. However, that pay is quite low for me to undertake the job.) that can enable the Boy Scouts to increase their net holdings, generate additional revenue sources to increase their capacity rating and reduce their administration under the 10% average for non-profits.

    From your writing it appears you believe a government employee (compared salary of a politician) can do a better job with well less then $800,000. Why do we not hire Edwin K. Zechman of Safe Kids Worldwide. He worked for free and he is always asking for money.

    The Boy Scouts obtain only a mere $5M in direct fundraising and Safe Kids received nearly 3x that amount. Maybe that might be why he gets a small affiliate bonus of $1,987,857 a year.

  32. Johnb Says:

    Alan the Boy Scouts themselves should be asking questions like: “Who set the pay rates”? They should be looking within their own ranks for someone just as qualified that will work for less.
    You said the “pay is quite low for me to undertake the job”? You make over $500,000?
    About my comment on the politicians, I did not say they could do a better job. I said they use the same argument to justify their high pay. Since they are a non-profit organization, I would like to see how they would justify their incomes. There are alot of CEO’s making less, and they are for profit companies.
    I also wonder how they can call themselves non-profit since they are making a profit from the stock maket. :)

  33. Alan Says:

    The pay for executives of non-profits are set no different then other organizations. It is usually a Board of Directors which generally include some of the top financial supporters of the organization.

    My salary is not of importance. It appears that a person is not entitled to increase his personal and family holdings if he/she works for a non-profit - that is a selfish comment. Next we will even argue that 300K salary is too much for our local head of Boy Scouts. You are too focused on earnings of hard working individuals making a difference in the life of our children versus a willingness of yourself to even support the efforts of these kids by assuming that volunteer opportunities cost nothing. These non-profit organizations are not government and cannot print money to pay $600 for supplies, water drinks and yes a little coffee for the volunteers that spend 4 hours on the beach cleaning up. I guess Society is entitled to my donated money and time to make this World a better place. That is apathy!

    Make a profit from public stock. hmmm… again you are reviewing this backwards. They are investing in local Communities and creating Jobs. Further, they are ensuring continual cash flow for the organization to survive longer then just one year. You should really take time to understand cash flow management.

    Should I move my holding to a savings account because I am a non-profit entity and only earn 2% or help Companies through investments that in return support my organization?

    Again non-profits have to function that anyone else, including me and you. I would never take my investments and place them in a savings account for the Bank to invest and earn money on my money. I do not like middlemen.

  34. Johnb Says:

    Alan you said ” It appears that a person is not entitled to increase his personal and family holdings if he/she works for a non-profit - that is a selfish comment.”
    Selfish is asking families making less then $40,000 for more money when your pay at the top is over $500,000. I also noticed the Boy Scouts revenues are down, but the pay at the top was up 8%. They had to cut staff, but manage to take an 8% pay increase for themselves.
    Now who’s being selfish?

  35. Alan Says:

    So because you do not earn over $40,000 a year you should not help organizations and your Community? I should be the only one to pay to help others like you? Trust me I do not mind reasonable amount of support that benefit my Community; however, even $100 can make a difference.

    I would like to make a personal challenge. It is understandable that with limited financial resources the ability to donate is very challenging. Trust me I have been there through my 9 years of college. It was not easy only able to give $20 a week to our Family Church at the time and nowhere near $2,000 a year (10% of my income) which would represent my equal contribution. They took very good care of us regardless and provided countless opportunities.

    Even today I face challenges and sometimes I am not able to write a check for $1,000 when it is so desperately needed for my Community. However, it is not always about financial support.

    Next month is the 24th Annual California Coastal Cleanup Day. Saturday, September 20, 2008, 9 AM to Noon. Last year nearly a million pounds of trash was collected by over 60,000 people in our Community. Here is the email for more information coast4u@coastal.ca.gov. I challenge you to come out and join your fellow neighbors and making a difference physically.

    Regarding salary increases…

    Here is the raw numbers for the local Scout Executive:
    2006 (2005 Return) = 290,531
    2007 (2006 Return) = 301,048

    Wow a 3.6% increase. And to argue 8% increase for others in light of a cost of living increase is unnecessary. Remember everyone has to survive rather they work for non-profit organizations or any other entity.

    Let me know which Beach you are going to help out and I will see if I can make arrangements to be there as well. Maybe we can get some breakfast before hand, my treat.

  36. jeez2m Says:

    Alan - Whoever you are, get a life, shut up and let others respond. Your name and talk is all over and dominates the pages, do you have a job or are you really Les Baron trying to protect yourself? Stop blogging, it is your same sorry blah-blah-barf all over this BSA stuff.

  37. Alan Says:

    jeez2m Says:
    August 26th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
    Alan - Whoever you are, get a life

    Got to really love those people that tell others to get a life.

    Priceless.

  38. Bucky Says:

    On numbers, where do the ROTC programs that only use the BSA for insurance come in? What about the boys that show up for one meeting, drop, but are counted on the rolls for the rest of the year? What about the so called “ghost units”? What about the units started, on paper, with other organizations with the promise of support from the local councils, that never see a boy in uniform?

  39. strongsidejedi Says:

    OK I’ll wade into this fact filled discussion.

    Let’s compare the BSA executive salary to the salaries of another “kid” oriented OC organization… Children’s Hospital of Orange County.

    CHOC is a major advertiser in OC Register and their community papers too.

    So, they won’t post these things without having a phone call from their PR team.

    The top paid executives at CHOC consume $4,369,374 in tax payer funds. The top paid independent contractors consume another $28,180,343 in tax payer funds.

    Highest paid executives (consuming $4,369,374.00 in 2005)
    (Page 9 of 32 appears to list Kim Cripe and Kerri Ruppert salary as zero. This unusual statement is also reflected in a statement on the Board of Directors. However, if you look at the tax return for Children’s Healthcare of California (a related organization), you will find the pertinent information. It appears that Ms. Ruppert chooses to post her salary related to CHOC on the CHC return. It is also interesting that the Children’s Healthcare of California return lists that Kim Cripe spends 2 hours per week working on the non-profit.

    $1,101,159 - Kim Cripe - Chief Executive Officer - $846,394 in compensation, $215,965 in benefits, and $38,800 in expense accounts

    $679,794 - Kerri Ruppert - Chief Financial Officer - $517,989 in compensation, $136,561 in benefits, and $25,244 in expense accounts

    $630,424 - Maria Minon - Ex-officio Director - $441,664 in compensation, $168,489 in benefits, $20,271 expense account

    $400,223 - Mark Headland - VP & Chief Info Officer - $311,194 in compensation, $79,342 in benefits, $9,687 expense account

    $387,372 - Dana Bledsoe - VP Patient Services - $292,566 in compensation, $79,415 in benefits, $15,391 expense account

    $384,629 - Margaret Conk - VP Business Development - $277,699 in compensation, $87,209 in benefits, $19,721 expense account

    $280,331 - Theresa E. Gianfortune - VP Human Resources - $220,109 in compensation, $70,254 in benefits, $9,968 expense account

    $271,990 - David R. Schinderle - VP Finance - $196,870 in compensation, $61,107 in benefits, $14,013 expense account

    $233,452 - Steve O’Kane - Ex-officio director - $213,000 in compensation, 0 in benefits, $20,452 in expense account

  40. Bucky Says:

    Thanks, but we aren’t talking about CHOC, the Mafia, or MIB. Maybe another day.

  41. Alan Says:

    Ok let us talk about the facts of our local Boy Scouts:

    Between 2000 and 2006 Boy Scouts of America has more then doubled their revenue growth.

    Between 2003 and 2006 the Boy Scouts sold over $4M in assets. This includes camp assets in the amount of $1.4M following back to back years in 2002 & 2003 of less then half the normal public contributions. Since then asset sales are under control with less then 200K gain from security sales in 2006.

    Les Baron replaced Kent Gibbs as the Scout Executive in 2004 at a savings of $100,000 in compensation in 2004! Since 2004 under Les Baron management program revenues continue to increase over a $1M annually as Scouts pay their share for program sponsered events - and yes scholarships are available for those who cannot afford the $30-35 weekend fees for camp. I strongly urge the Community to support fundraising efforts as a portion of the revenue (30% average) remain with the Pack to help their neighborhood based families attend the Scouting programs at a reduced cost.

    Under Les Baron management public support nearly doubled since 2003 following back to back years where revenue from public contributions was flat.

    Now I personally think Les Baron is worth the same if not more salary then Kent Gibbs was paid for his outstanding efforts to clean up the balance sheet and promote Scouting to the Community.

    The fact remains that 2006 was an adjustment year as public contributions went from nearly $12M to $7M due in part to an economic slowdown and discontinue of support for Community Organizations that support leadership in our Youth by the United Way.

    If you want to look at the numbers yourself, download them from GuideStar.

  42. strongsidejedi Says:

    While this blog is busy pursuing its progressive agenda couched under a now-tarnished, journalistic veil of integrity, let a member of the “internet” estate chastize the “4th” estate for their lack of objectivity and reporting.

    I can say this with certainty because of the contracts and agreements being written between the Boys and Girls Clubs and the CHOC executives. Care to publish those contracts?

    Is this being counted as a part of the 4.5 million a year in service program revenue for CHOC or for the Boys and Girls Club?

    TERI:

    When a blog has to be used to do your job, it really brings into question the real motives of the journalists involved. The reader is left to ponder if you have another agenda here?

    For this reason, it would be a wise idea to stop the pantomime and start publishing some real facts instead.

    There is one big difference between Boy Scouts and Boys and Girls Clubs.

    Boy Scouts learn to survive on their own without $4.5 million dollars in tax payer handouts.

    Let’s talk about the structure of the BSA versus the Boys and Girls Club clinics which you know so well.

    Or should we not?

    Is this just about throwing more mud at the BSA and flag while the progressives are throwing another $1 million a month at their favorite charities?

    Why don’t you do some homework during your day job and stop pestering volunteer scout leaders?

    Why don’t you post the REAL FACTS on the hospitals instead of posting rickrolling pointers to a non-existant story in your “Non-profit” link?

    Why don’t you come clean on your own funding for yourself first?

    Or, are you immune from the disclosure and transparency because you are a blogger?

    No offense, but there is a big difference between BSA’s volunteer programs and the under performance in the local healthcare system which results in the deaths of our fellow citizens.

  43. Bucky Says:

    Strongisjedi’s posts are clearly off topic, no matter how much he tries to tie them in. At first, I thought he was just trying to move us on to a bigger target as some sort of diversionary tactic. Now, it appears that he wants us to talk about what he wants to talk about.

    I vote to delete the off topic posts—including this one. I also motion to put a frozen yogurt machine in the cafeteria. All in favor?

  44. Strongsidejedi Says:

    In comparison to the local hospitals, the BSA looks lean and mean and is a non-profit machine.

Leave a Reply

ADVERTISEMENT